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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org, dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: dm-mpath request merging concerns [was: Re: It's time to put together the schedule]
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:14:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150223211444.GA5503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150223203933.GC4693@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 23 2015 at  3:39pm -0500,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 23 2015 at  3:08pm -0500,
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > 
> > I'd like to rephrase the question a little bit:  Is the request layer +
> > device mapper really the right combination for driving multipath I/O?
> > 
> > If we were moving it to a set of helpers where blk-mq drivers could
> > just ask for resubmitting I/O on another device of it's choice we
> > would be able to cut the middle man with all the problems that having
> > a middle man entails. That is all the busy checks that need to be
> > propagated, the plugging question, the various merge parameters that need
> > to be communicated from the driver, the sense code intepretation for which
> > dm needs to call back into SCSI (or NVMe for that matter).  To me
> > it seems like a much better idea to let the driver (*) driver the
> > decision, with a few library helpers provided to deal with queue selection
> > algorithms and other faіrly generic pieces of code.
> > 
> > (*) that is block layer driver, in case of SCSI it would still be the
> > midlayer pulling the strings.
> 
> OK, fair question.  But making existing DM-multipath work as expected
> (effective consumer of old block's elevators) would be a nice thing to
> do before blowing it up with a redesign.
> 
> There is a lot of block code that is only used by request-based DM, the
> big one being blk_queue_bio().

And yet I'm wrong, blk_queue_bio() is clearly used as the primary
make_request function.  Which is good, arrests my fears that DM was only
consumer.  DM is the only consumer of symbol export.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2015-02-23 13:50   ` dm-mpath request merging concerns [was: Re: It's time to put together the schedule] Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 17:18     ` [Lsf] " Mike Christie
2015-02-23 18:34       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-23 19:56         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 21:19           ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-23 22:46             ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 22:14               ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-24  0:39                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-24  0:38                   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2015-02-24  2:02                     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-24 14:35                       ` Jeff Moyer
2015-02-24 14:59                         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 19:35       ` [Lsf] " Merla, ShivaKrishna
2015-02-23 19:50       ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 20:08         ` [Lsf] " Christoph Hellwig
2015-02-23 20:39           ` Mike Snitzer
2015-02-23 21:14             ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
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2015-03-08 18:11             ` RFC for small allocation failure mode transition plan (was: Re: [Lsf] common session about page allocator vs. FS/IO) It's time to put together the schedule) Michal Hocko

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