From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Cc: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
peterz@infradead.org, hpa@zytor.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
sam.bobroff@au1.ibm.com, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] Add die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore}
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:27:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150224072719.GB15894@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224064107.GB15387@gmail.com>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org> wrote:
>
> > +static arch_spinlock_t die_lock = __ARCH_SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED;
> > +static int die_owner = -1;
> > +static unsigned int die_nest_count;
> > +
> > +unsigned long __die_spin_lock_irqsave(void)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long flags;
> > + int cpu;
> > +
> > + /* racy, but better than risking deadlock. */
> > + raw_local_irq_save(flags);
> > +
> > + cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > + if (!arch_spin_trylock(&die_lock)) {
> > + if (cpu != die_owner)
> > + arch_spin_lock(&die_lock);
>
> So why not trylock and time out here after a few seconds,
> instead of indefinitely supressing some potentially vital
> output due to some other CPU crashing/locking with the lock
> held?
[...]
> If we fix the deadlock potential, and get a true global
> ordering of various oopses/warnings as they triggered (or
> at least timestamping them), [...]
If we had a global 'trouble counter' we could use that to
refine the spin-looping timeout: instead of using a pure
timeout of a few seconds, we could say 'a timeout of a few
seconds while the counter does not increase'.
I.e. only override the locking/ordering if the owner CPU
does not seem to be able to make progress with printing the
oops/warning.
Thanks,
Ingo
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From: mingo@kernel.org (Ingo Molnar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/7] Add die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore}
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:27:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150224072719.GB15894@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224064107.GB15387@gmail.com>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org> wrote:
>
> > +static arch_spinlock_t die_lock = __ARCH_SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED;
> > +static int die_owner = -1;
> > +static unsigned int die_nest_count;
> > +
> > +unsigned long __die_spin_lock_irqsave(void)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long flags;
> > + int cpu;
> > +
> > + /* racy, but better than risking deadlock. */
> > + raw_local_irq_save(flags);
> > +
> > + cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > + if (!arch_spin_trylock(&die_lock)) {
> > + if (cpu != die_owner)
> > + arch_spin_lock(&die_lock);
>
> So why not trylock and time out here after a few seconds,
> instead of indefinitely supressing some potentially vital
> output due to some other CPU crashing/locking with the lock
> held?
[...]
> If we fix the deadlock potential, and get a true global
> ordering of various oopses/warnings as they triggered (or
> at least timestamping them), [...]
If we had a global 'trouble counter' we could use that to
refine the spin-looping timeout: instead of using a pure
timeout of a few seconds, we could say 'a timeout of a few
seconds while the counter does not increase'.
I.e. only override the locking/ordering if the owner CPU
does not seem to be able to make progress with printing the
oops/warning.
Thanks,
Ingo
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
sam.bobroff@au1.ibm.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
hpa@zytor.com, Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
peterz@infradead.org, Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
x86@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] Add die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore}
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:27:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150224072719.GB15894@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224064107.GB15387@gmail.com>
* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> * Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org> wrote:
>
> > +static arch_spinlock_t die_lock = __ARCH_SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED;
> > +static int die_owner = -1;
> > +static unsigned int die_nest_count;
> > +
> > +unsigned long __die_spin_lock_irqsave(void)
> > +{
> > + unsigned long flags;
> > + int cpu;
> > +
> > + /* racy, but better than risking deadlock. */
> > + raw_local_irq_save(flags);
> > +
> > + cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > + if (!arch_spin_trylock(&die_lock)) {
> > + if (cpu != die_owner)
> > + arch_spin_lock(&die_lock);
>
> So why not trylock and time out here after a few seconds,
> instead of indefinitely supressing some potentially vital
> output due to some other CPU crashing/locking with the lock
> held?
[...]
> If we fix the deadlock potential, and get a true global
> ordering of various oopses/warnings as they triggered (or
> at least timestamping them), [...]
If we had a global 'trouble counter' we could use that to
refine the spin-looping timeout: instead of using a pure
timeout of a few seconds, we could say 'a timeout of a few
seconds while the counter does not increase'.
I.e. only override the locking/ordering if the owner CPU
does not seem to be able to make progress with printing the
oops/warning.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-24 7:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-24 3:30 [PATCH 0/7] Serialise oopses, BUGs, WARNs, dump_stack, soft lockups and hard lockups Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 1/7] Add die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 6:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 6:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 6:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 7:27 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-02-24 7:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 7:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 9:56 ` David Laight
2015-02-24 9:56 ` David Laight
2015-02-24 9:56 ` David Laight
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] powerpc: Use die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] arm: " Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86: " Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] watchdog: Serialise soft lockup errors with die_spin_lock_{irqsave, irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] watchdog: Serialise soft lockup errors with die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] watchdog: Serialise soft lockup errors with die_spin_lock_{irqsave, irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] dump_stack: Serialise dump_stack " Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] dump_stack: Serialise dump_stack with die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] dump_stack: Serialise dump_stack with die_spin_lock_{irqsave, irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] powerpc: Serialise BUG and WARNs " Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] powerpc: Serialise BUG and WARNs with die_spin_lock_{irqsave,irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 3:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] powerpc: Serialise BUG and WARNs with die_spin_lock_{irqsave, irqrestore} Anton Blanchard
2015-02-24 6:35 ` [PATCH 0/7] Serialise oopses, BUGs, WARNs, dump_stack, soft lockups and hard lockups Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 9:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-24 9:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-24 9:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-02-24 10:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-24 10:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-24 10:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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