From: mturquette@linaro.org (Mike Turquette)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 3/4] clk: Provide an always-on clock domain framework
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:23:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150225182325.421.43945@quantum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_Jsq+N4D8fUCwrYwxLaRpbhsgi5eZy5cLpsSmp8VoTQZUqow@mail.gmail.com>
Quoting Rob Herring (2015-02-25 07:24:43)
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Quoting Lee Jones (2015-02-18 08:15:00)
> >> Much h/w contain clocks which if turned off would prove fatal. The
> >> only way to recover is to restart the board(s). This driver takes
> >> references to clocks which are required to be always-on in order to
> >> prevent the common clk framework from trying to turn them off during
> >> the clk_disabled_unused() procedure.
>
> [...]
>
> >> +static int ao_clock_domain_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >> +{
> >> + struct device_node *np = pdev->dev.of_node;
> >> + int nclks, i;
> >> +
> >> + nclks = of_count_phandle_with_args(np, "clocks", "#clock-cells");
> >
> > Minor nitpick: please use of_clk_get_parent_count. I spent a solid 5
> > minutes writing that function and I need people to use it so I can get a
> > return on my investment.
> >
> > Otherwise the patch looks good. I believe that this method is targeting
> > always-on clock in a production environment, which is different from the
> > CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED stuff which typically is helpful while bringing up new
> > hardware or dealing with a platform that has incomplete driver support.
>
> There is also the usecase of keep clocks on until I load a module that
> properly handles my hardware (e.g simplefb). We have a simplefb node
> with clocks and the simplefb driver jumps thru some hoops to hand-off
> clocks to the real driver. I don't really like it and don't want to
> see more examples. And there is the case of I thought I would never
> manage this clock, but kernel subsystems evolve and now I want to
> manage a clock. This should not require a DT update to do so.
Regarding the latter case, this is a violation of the intent of
always-on clocks. I think a firmly worded sentence in the binding should
suffice.
>
> Neither of these may be Lee's usecase, but I want to see them covered
> by the binding.
>
> > I wonder if there is a clever way for existing clock providers
> > (expressed in DT) to use this without having to create a separate node
> > of clocks with the "always-on-clk-domain" flag. Possibly the common
> > clock binding could declare some always-on flag that is standardized?
> > Then the framework core could use this code easily. Not sure if that is
> > a good idea though...
>
> I would prefer to see the always on clocks just listed within the
> clock controller's node rather than creating made up nodes with clock
> properties. This should be always-on until claimed IMO, but that
> aspect is the OS's problem, not a DT problem.
So the common clock binding could have a new always-on list added to it,
but the clock can still be claimed and gated by drivers? I'll think on
it a bit but always-on is not the right name in that case. It is a more
general solution however (since it could still cover the sub-case of
clocks always remaining on since a driver never claims them).
Regards,
Mike
>
> Rob
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From: Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel@stlinux.com, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] clk: Provide an always-on clock domain framework
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:23:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150225182325.421.43945@quantum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_Jsq+N4D8fUCwrYwxLaRpbhsgi5eZy5cLpsSmp8VoTQZUqow@mail.gmail.com>
Quoting Rob Herring (2015-02-25 07:24:43)
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Quoting Lee Jones (2015-02-18 08:15:00)
> >> Much h/w contain clocks which if turned off would prove fatal. The
> >> only way to recover is to restart the board(s). This driver takes
> >> references to clocks which are required to be always-on in order to
> >> prevent the common clk framework from trying to turn them off during
> >> the clk_disabled_unused() procedure.
>
> [...]
>
> >> +static int ao_clock_domain_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >> +{
> >> + struct device_node *np = pdev->dev.of_node;
> >> + int nclks, i;
> >> +
> >> + nclks = of_count_phandle_with_args(np, "clocks", "#clock-cells");
> >
> > Minor nitpick: please use of_clk_get_parent_count. I spent a solid 5
> > minutes writing that function and I need people to use it so I can get a
> > return on my investment.
> >
> > Otherwise the patch looks good. I believe that this method is targeting
> > always-on clock in a production environment, which is different from the
> > CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED stuff which typically is helpful while bringing up new
> > hardware or dealing with a platform that has incomplete driver support.
>
> There is also the usecase of keep clocks on until I load a module that
> properly handles my hardware (e.g simplefb). We have a simplefb node
> with clocks and the simplefb driver jumps thru some hoops to hand-off
> clocks to the real driver. I don't really like it and don't want to
> see more examples. And there is the case of I thought I would never
> manage this clock, but kernel subsystems evolve and now I want to
> manage a clock. This should not require a DT update to do so.
Regarding the latter case, this is a violation of the intent of
always-on clocks. I think a firmly worded sentence in the binding should
suffice.
>
> Neither of these may be Lee's usecase, but I want to see them covered
> by the binding.
>
> > I wonder if there is a clever way for existing clock providers
> > (expressed in DT) to use this without having to create a separate node
> > of clocks with the "always-on-clk-domain" flag. Possibly the common
> > clock binding could declare some always-on flag that is standardized?
> > Then the framework core could use this code easily. Not sure if that is
> > a good idea though...
>
> I would prefer to see the always on clocks just listed within the
> clock controller's node rather than creating made up nodes with clock
> properties. This should be always-on until claimed IMO, but that
> aspect is the OS's problem, not a DT problem.
So the common clock binding could have a new always-on list added to it,
but the clock can still be claimed and gated by drivers? I'll think on
it a bit but always-on is not the right name in that case. It is a more
general solution however (since it could still cover the sub-case of
clocks always remaining on since a driver never claims them).
Regards,
Mike
>
> Rob
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2015-02-18 16:14 No subject Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:14 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:14 ` (unknown), Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] ARM: sti: stih407-family: Supply defines for CLOCKGEN A0 Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:14 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:14 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] ARM: sti: stih407-family: Provide Clock Domain information Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:14 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] clk: Provide an always-on clock domain framework Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:15 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:15 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-23 10:34 ` [STLinux Kernel] " Peter Griffin
2015-02-23 10:34 ` Peter Griffin
2015-02-23 17:23 ` Mike Turquette
2015-02-23 17:23 ` Mike Turquette
2015-02-23 17:23 ` Mike Turquette
2015-02-24 11:04 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-24 11:04 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-25 15:24 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-25 15:24 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-25 15:48 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-25 15:48 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-25 15:48 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-25 18:26 ` Mike Turquette
2015-02-25 18:26 ` Mike Turquette
2015-02-25 18:23 ` Mike Turquette [this message]
2015-02-25 18:23 ` Mike Turquette
2015-02-18 16:15 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] clk: dt: Introduce always-on clock domain documentation Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:15 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 16:54 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-18 16:54 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-18 16:54 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-18 17:12 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 17:12 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 18:50 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-18 18:50 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-18 21:54 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 21:54 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-18 23:45 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-18 23:45 ` Rob Herring
2015-02-19 10:05 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:05 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 9:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 9:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 9:42 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 9:42 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 9:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 9:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 9:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 10:11 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:11 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:11 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 10:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 10:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 10:28 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:28 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:28 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 10:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 10:43 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 10:43 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 11:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 11:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-02-19 11:13 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 11:13 ` Lee Jones
2015-02-19 16:53 ` Rob Herring
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