From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Baoquan He" <bhe@redhat.com>,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com, "\"Hatayama,
Daisuke/畑山 大輔\"" <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
bp@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kernel/panic/kexec: fix "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" option issue in oops path
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:36:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150323153659.GC3172@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150323071943.GA22765@gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 08:19:43AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > CC more people ...
> >
> > On 03/07/15 at 01:31am, "Hatayama, Daisuke/畑山 大輔" wrote:
> > > The commit f06e5153f4ae2e2f3b0300f0e260e40cb7fefd45 introduced
> > > "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" kernel boot option, which toggles
> > > wheather panic() calls crash_kexec() before panic_notifiers and dump
> > > kmsg or after.
> > >
> > > The problem is that the commit overlooks panic_on_oops kernel boot
> > > option. If it is enabled, crash_kexec() is called directly without
> > > going through panic() in oops path.
> > >
> > > To fix this issue, this patch adds a check to
> > > "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" in the condition of kexec_should_crash().
> > >
> > > Also, put a comment in kexec_should_crash() to explain not obvious
> > > things on this patch.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > > Acked-by: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
> > > Tested-by: Hidehiro Kawai <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
> > > ---
> > > include/linux/kernel.h | 3 +++
> > > kernel/kexec.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > > kernel/panic.c | 2 +-
> > > 3 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> This is hack upon hack, but why was this crap merged in the first
> place?
>
> I see two problems just by cursory review:
>
> 1)
>
> Firstly, the real bug in:
>
> f06e5153f4ae ("kernel/panic.c: add "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" option for kdump after panic_notifers")
>
> Was that crash_kexec() was called unconditionally after notifiers were
> called, which should be fixed via the simple patch below (untested).
> Looks much simpler than your fix.
>
> 2)
>
> Secondly, and more importantly, the whole premise of commit
> f06e5153f4ae is broken IMHO:
>
> "This can help rare situations where kdump fails because of unstable
> crashed kernel or hardware failure (memory corruption on critical
> data/code)"
>
> wtf?
>
> If the kernel crashed due to a kernel crash, then the kernel booting
> up in whatever hardware state should be able to do a clean bootup. The
> fix for those 'rare situations' should be to fix the real bug (for
> example by making hardware driver init (or deinit) sequences more
> robust), not to paper it over by ordering around crash-time sequences
> ...
>
> If it crashed due to some hardware failure, there's literally an
> infinite amount of failure modes that may or may not be impacted by
> kexec crash-time handling ordering. We don't want to put a zillion
> such flags into the kernel proper just to allow the perturbation of
> the kernel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
>
I quickly tested this patch to make sure I can still transition into
second kernel when crash_kexec_post_notifiers is specified on command
line. I have not tried running any notifiers. So.
Tested-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Acked-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
This should be a general fix and not a replacement for the patch
in question in this mail thread.
Thanks
Vivek
> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> index 8136ad76e5fd..774614f72cbd 100644
> --- a/kernel/panic.c
> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> @@ -142,7 +142,8 @@ void panic(const char *fmt, ...)
> * Note: since some panic_notifiers can make crashed kernel
> * more unstable, it can increase risks of the kdump failure too.
> */
> - crash_kexec(NULL);
> + if (crash_kexec_post_notifiers)
> + crash_kexec(NULL);
>
> bust_spinlocks(0);
>
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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Baoquan He" <bhe@redhat.com>,
"\"Hatayama, Daisuke/畑山 大輔\"" <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
ebiederm@xmission.com, masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com,
hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
mingo@redhat.com, bp@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kernel/panic/kexec: fix "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" option issue in oops path
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:36:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150323153659.GC3172@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150323071943.GA22765@gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 08:19:43AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > CC more people ...
> >
> > On 03/07/15 at 01:31am, "Hatayama, Daisuke/畑山 大輔" wrote:
> > > The commit f06e5153f4ae2e2f3b0300f0e260e40cb7fefd45 introduced
> > > "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" kernel boot option, which toggles
> > > wheather panic() calls crash_kexec() before panic_notifiers and dump
> > > kmsg or after.
> > >
> > > The problem is that the commit overlooks panic_on_oops kernel boot
> > > option. If it is enabled, crash_kexec() is called directly without
> > > going through panic() in oops path.
> > >
> > > To fix this issue, this patch adds a check to
> > > "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" in the condition of kexec_should_crash().
> > >
> > > Also, put a comment in kexec_should_crash() to explain not obvious
> > > things on this patch.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > > Acked-by: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
> > > Tested-by: Hidehiro Kawai <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
> > > ---
> > > include/linux/kernel.h | 3 +++
> > > kernel/kexec.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > > kernel/panic.c | 2 +-
> > > 3 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> This is hack upon hack, but why was this crap merged in the first
> place?
>
> I see two problems just by cursory review:
>
> 1)
>
> Firstly, the real bug in:
>
> f06e5153f4ae ("kernel/panic.c: add "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" option for kdump after panic_notifers")
>
> Was that crash_kexec() was called unconditionally after notifiers were
> called, which should be fixed via the simple patch below (untested).
> Looks much simpler than your fix.
>
> 2)
>
> Secondly, and more importantly, the whole premise of commit
> f06e5153f4ae is broken IMHO:
>
> "This can help rare situations where kdump fails because of unstable
> crashed kernel or hardware failure (memory corruption on critical
> data/code)"
>
> wtf?
>
> If the kernel crashed due to a kernel crash, then the kernel booting
> up in whatever hardware state should be able to do a clean bootup. The
> fix for those 'rare situations' should be to fix the real bug (for
> example by making hardware driver init (or deinit) sequences more
> robust), not to paper it over by ordering around crash-time sequences
> ...
>
> If it crashed due to some hardware failure, there's literally an
> infinite amount of failure modes that may or may not be impacted by
> kexec crash-time handling ordering. We don't want to put a zillion
> such flags into the kernel proper just to allow the perturbation of
> the kernel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
>
I quickly tested this patch to make sure I can still transition into
second kernel when crash_kexec_post_notifiers is specified on command
line. I have not tried running any notifiers. So.
Tested-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Acked-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
This should be a general fix and not a replacement for the patch
in question in this mail thread.
Thanks
Vivek
> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> index 8136ad76e5fd..774614f72cbd 100644
> --- a/kernel/panic.c
> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> @@ -142,7 +142,8 @@ void panic(const char *fmt, ...)
> * Note: since some panic_notifiers can make crashed kernel
> * more unstable, it can increase risks of the kdump failure too.
> */
> - crash_kexec(NULL);
> + if (crash_kexec_post_notifiers)
> + crash_kexec(NULL);
>
> bust_spinlocks(0);
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-23 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-06 16:31 [PATCH v2] kernel/panic/kexec: fix "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" option issue in oops path "Hatayama, Daisuke/畑山 大輔"
2015-03-06 16:31 ` "Hatayama, Daisuke/畑山 大輔"
2015-03-06 18:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-06 18:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-23 3:47 ` Baoquan He
2015-03-23 3:47 ` Baoquan He
2015-03-23 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 13:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-23 13:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-23 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 14:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-23 14:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-23 16:01 ` Don Zickus
2015-03-23 16:01 ` Don Zickus
2015-03-24 3:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-24 3:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-23 15:36 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2015-03-23 15:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-24 3:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-24 3:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-24 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-24 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-24 10:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-24 10:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-24 14:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-24 14:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-25 15:07 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2015-03-25 15:07 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2015-03-24 14:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-24 14:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-24 16:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-24 16:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-24 17:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-03-24 17:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2015-05-12 8:43 ` Hidehiro Kawai
2015-05-12 8:43 ` Hidehiro Kawai
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