From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] idle memory tracking
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:45:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150324074545.GA4963@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1426706637.git.vdavydov@parallels.com>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:44:33PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> Usage:
>
> 1. Write 1 to /proc/sys/vm/set_idle.
>
> This will set the IDLE flag for all user pages. The IDLE flag is cleared
> when the page is read or the ACCESS/YOUNG bit is cleared in any PTE pointing
> to the page. It is also cleared when the page is freed.
>
> 2. Wait some time.
>
> 3. Write 6 to /proc/PID/clear_refs for each PID of interest.
>
> This will clear the IDLE flag for recently accessed pages.
>
> 4. Count the number of idle pages as reported by /proc/kpageflags. One may use
> /proc/PID/pagemap and/or /proc/kpagecgroup to filter pages that belong to a
> certain application/container.
Any more thoughts on this? I am particularly interested in the user
interface. I think that /proc/kpagecgroup is OK, but I have my
reservations about using /proc/sys/vm/set_idle and /proc/PID/clear_refs
for setting and clearing the idle flag. The point is it is impossible to
scan memory for setting/clearing page idle flags in the background with
some predefined rate - one has to scan it all at once, which might
result in CPU load spikes on huge machines with TBs of RAM. May be, we'd
better introduce /proc/sys/vm/{set_idle,clear_refs_idle}, which would
receive pfn range to set/clear idle flags?
Any thoughts/ideas are more than welcome.
Thanks,
Vladimir
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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] idle memory tracking
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:45:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150324074545.GA4963@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1426706637.git.vdavydov@parallels.com>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:44:33PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> Usage:
>
> 1. Write 1 to /proc/sys/vm/set_idle.
>
> This will set the IDLE flag for all user pages. The IDLE flag is cleared
> when the page is read or the ACCESS/YOUNG bit is cleared in any PTE pointing
> to the page. It is also cleared when the page is freed.
>
> 2. Wait some time.
>
> 3. Write 6 to /proc/PID/clear_refs for each PID of interest.
>
> This will clear the IDLE flag for recently accessed pages.
>
> 4. Count the number of idle pages as reported by /proc/kpageflags. One may use
> /proc/PID/pagemap and/or /proc/kpagecgroup to filter pages that belong to a
> certain application/container.
Any more thoughts on this? I am particularly interested in the user
interface. I think that /proc/kpagecgroup is OK, but I have my
reservations about using /proc/sys/vm/set_idle and /proc/PID/clear_refs
for setting and clearing the idle flag. The point is it is impossible to
scan memory for setting/clearing page idle flags in the background with
some predefined rate - one has to scan it all at once, which might
result in CPU load spikes on huge machines with TBs of RAM. May be, we'd
better introduce /proc/sys/vm/{set_idle,clear_refs_idle}, which would
receive pfn range to set/clear idle flags?
Any thoughts/ideas are more than welcome.
Thanks,
Vladimir
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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] idle memory tracking
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:45:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150324074545.GA4963@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1426706637.git.vdavydov@parallels.com>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:44:33PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> Usage:
>
> 1. Write 1 to /proc/sys/vm/set_idle.
>
> This will set the IDLE flag for all user pages. The IDLE flag is cleared
> when the page is read or the ACCESS/YOUNG bit is cleared in any PTE pointing
> to the page. It is also cleared when the page is freed.
>
> 2. Wait some time.
>
> 3. Write 6 to /proc/PID/clear_refs for each PID of interest.
>
> This will clear the IDLE flag for recently accessed pages.
>
> 4. Count the number of idle pages as reported by /proc/kpageflags. One may use
> /proc/PID/pagemap and/or /proc/kpagecgroup to filter pages that belong to a
> certain application/container.
Any more thoughts on this? I am particularly interested in the user
interface. I think that /proc/kpagecgroup is OK, but I have my
reservations about using /proc/sys/vm/set_idle and /proc/PID/clear_refs
for setting and clearing the idle flag. The point is it is impossible to
scan memory for setting/clearing page idle flags in the background with
some predefined rate - one has to scan it all at once, which might
result in CPU load spikes on huge machines with TBs of RAM. May be, we'd
better introduce /proc/sys/vm/{set_idle,clear_refs_idle}, which would
receive pfn range to set/clear idle flags?
Any thoughts/ideas are more than welcome.
Thanks,
Vladimir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-24 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-18 20:44 [PATCH 0/3] idle memory tracking Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg: add page_cgroup_ino helper Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] proc: add kpagecgroup file Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: idle memory tracking Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-18 20:44 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-19 10:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2015-03-19 10:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2015-03-19 10:41 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-19 10:41 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-19 10:41 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-19 10:45 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2015-03-19 10:45 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2015-03-19 2:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Minchan Kim
2015-03-19 2:13 ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-19 8:08 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-19 8:08 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-24 7:45 ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2015-03-24 7:45 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-03-24 7:45 ` Vladimir Davydov
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