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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping for tail pages
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:55:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150325105535.GA10932@node.dhcp.inet.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1503241621050.2532@eggly.anvils>

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 04:42:48PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > Yes, it works until some sound driver decide it wants to use
> > page->mappging.
> 
> (a) Why would it want to use page->mapping?

No idea.

> (b) What's the problem if it wants to use page->mapping?

It would need to be initalized for all subpages to get core mm see correct
value. And this doesn't match with current ->mapping users of __GFP_COMP
page (THP and hugetlb) which initialize ->mapping only for head pages.

> (c) Or perhaps some __GFP_COMP driver does already use page->mapping?

I haven't found any.

> > It's just pure luck that it happened to work in this particular case.
> 
> We were lucky that it fitted together without needing extra code, yes.
> But this didn't happen by accident, it was known and considered.

I don't agree it was considered well enough.

> > You only need to pay the expense if you hit tail page which is very rare
> > in current kernel. I think we can pay this cost for correctness.
> 
> But it's correct as is.

See above.

> > 
> > We will shave some cost of compound_head() if/when my refcounting patchset
> > get merged: no need of barrier anymore.
> 
> And if these changes are necessary for that, sure, go ahead:
> but as part of that work.

I believe the patchset has value by its own. And having it merged makes my
life easier. But up to Andrew.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping for tail pages
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:55:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150325105535.GA10932@node.dhcp.inet.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1503241621050.2532@eggly.anvils>

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 04:42:48PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > Yes, it works until some sound driver decide it wants to use
> > page->mappging.
> 
> (a) Why would it want to use page->mapping?

No idea.

> (b) What's the problem if it wants to use page->mapping?

It would need to be initalized for all subpages to get core mm see correct
value. And this doesn't match with current ->mapping users of __GFP_COMP
page (THP and hugetlb) which initialize ->mapping only for head pages.

> (c) Or perhaps some __GFP_COMP driver does already use page->mapping?

I haven't found any.

> > It's just pure luck that it happened to work in this particular case.
> 
> We were lucky that it fitted together without needing extra code, yes.
> But this didn't happen by accident, it was known and considered.

I don't agree it was considered well enough.

> > You only need to pay the expense if you hit tail page which is very rare
> > in current kernel. I think we can pay this cost for correctness.
> 
> But it's correct as is.

See above.

> > 
> > We will shave some cost of compound_head() if/when my refcounting patchset
> > get merged: no need of barrier anymore.
> 
> And if these changes are necessary for that, sure, go ahead:
> but as part of that work.

I believe the patchset has value by its own. And having it merged makes my
life easier. But up to Andrew.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-25 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-19 17:08 [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping for tail pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: consolidate all page-flags helpers in <linux/page-flags.h> Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:10   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23  0:10     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 02/16] page-flags: trivial cleanup for PageTrans* helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:12   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23  0:12     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 03/16] page-flags: introduce page flags policies wrt compound pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-20 20:35   ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-20 20:35     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-20 21:34     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-20 21:34       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 04/16] page-flags: define PG_locked behavior on " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-27 15:11   ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 15:11     ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 15:13   ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 15:13     ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 15:13     ` Mateusz Krawczuk
2015-03-27 16:37     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-27 16:37       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-27 16:37       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-15 20:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-15 20:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-06  4:15   ` page-flags behavior on compound pages: a worry Hugh Dickins
2015-08-06  4:15     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-06 15:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-06 15:33       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-06 19:24       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-06 19:24         ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-06 20:45         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-06 20:45           ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-07 14:50           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-07 14:50             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-07 15:28             ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-07 15:28               ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-10 11:09               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-10 11:09                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-10 13:50                 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-10 13:50                   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-07 14:49         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-07 14:49           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-13  5:10           ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-13  5:10             ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-12 14:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-12 14:35           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-12 14:47           ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-12 14:47             ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-12 21:16           ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-12 21:16             ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-12 22:21             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-12 22:21               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-13  4:12               ` Hugh Dickins
2015-08-13  4:12                 ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 05/16] page-flags: define behavior of FS/IO-related flags on compound pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 18:29   ` Dave Hansen
2015-03-19 18:29     ` Dave Hansen
2015-03-19 20:02     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 20:02       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:02       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23  0:02         ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23 12:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23 12:17           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-24 22:54           ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-24 22:54             ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-25 10:23             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-25 10:23               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-25 18:56               ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-25 18:56                 ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 06/16] page-flags: define behavior of LRU-related " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 07/16] page-flags: define behavior SL*B-related " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 08/16] page-flags: define behavior of Xen-related " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 09/16] page-flags: define PG_reserved behavior " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-31 15:24   ` Chris Wilson
2020-02-03 15:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-02-03 15:24       ` Chris Wilson
2020-02-03 17:10         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-03 17:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] page-flags: define PG_swapbacked " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 11/16] page-flags: define PG_swapcache " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 12/16] page-flags: define PG_mlocked " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 13/16] page-flags: define PG_uncached " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 14/16] page-flags: define PG_uptodate " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 15/16] page-flags: look on head page if the flag is encoded in page->mapping Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08 ` [PATCH 16/16] mm: sanitize page->mapping for tail pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-19 17:08   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23  0:28 ` [PATCH 00/16] Sanitize usage of ->flags and ->mapping " Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23  0:28   ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-23 10:04   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-23 10:04     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-24 23:42     ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-24 23:42       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-03-25 10:55       ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2015-03-25 10:55         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-24 17:39 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-03-24 17:39   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-03-24 20:04   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-24 20:04     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-15 20:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-15 20:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-15 21:18   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-15 21:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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