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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-aio@kvack.org" <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 00:40:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150330074020.GC22229@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150327100411.6823b9d7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:04:11AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> mm...  I don't think we should be adding placeholders to the kernel API
> to support code which hasn't been written, tested, reviewed, merged,
> etc.  It's possible none of this will ever happen and we end up with a
> syscall nobody needs or uses.  Plus it's always possible that during
> this development we decide the pwrite2() interface needs alteration but
> it's too late.
> 
> What would be the downside of deferring pwrite2() until it's all
> implemented?

It _is_ implemented.  I just decided to submit it separately as Miklos
already has to deal with enough bikeshedding for his feature that I
don't want to put the burden of dealing with the BS for the one I wrote
on him.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Milosz Tanski <milosz@adfin.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-aio@kvack.org" <linux-aio@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Volker Lendecke <Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 00:40:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150330074020.GC22229@infradead.org> (raw)
Message-ID: <20150330074020.2YgISi_iCg3mQ06W_cm3a84a-XKn6kQWboEyk2lOejk@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150327100411.6823b9d7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:04:11AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> mm...  I don't think we should be adding placeholders to the kernel API
> to support code which hasn't been written, tested, reviewed, merged,
> etc.  It's possible none of this will ever happen and we end up with a
> syscall nobody needs or uses.  Plus it's always possible that during
> this development we decide the pwrite2() interface needs alteration but
> it's too late.
> 
> What would be the downside of deferring pwrite2() until it's all
> implemented?

It _is_ implemented.  I just decided to submit it separately as Miklos
already has to deal with enough bikeshedding for his feature that I
don't want to put the burden of dealing with the BS for the one I wrote
on him.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-30  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 18:27 [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] vfs: Prepare for adding a new preadv/pwritev with user flags Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 21:05   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-03-16 21:05     ` Andreas Dilger
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] vfs: Define new syscalls preadv2,pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] x86: wire up preadv2 and pwritev2 Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] vfs: RWF_NONBLOCK flag for preadv2 Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] xfs: add RWF_NONBLOCK support Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:27   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 22:04   ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-16 18:32 ` [PATCH] Add preadv2/pwritev2 documentation Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 16:49   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20150327094932.31b5c9fc.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-30  7:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-30  7:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-26 11:55 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-26 11:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-26 19:12   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-26 19:12     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27  2:26     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27  2:29     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27  2:29       ` Milosz Tanski
     [not found] ` <cover.1426528417.git.milosz-B5zB6C1i6pkAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-16 18:34   ` [PATCH] fstests: generic test for preadv2 behavior on linux Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 18:34     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 21:07     ` Andreas Dilger
2015-03-16 21:07       ` Andreas Dilger
2015-03-16 22:03       ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-16 22:02     ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-16 22:02       ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-16 22:11       ` Milosz Tanski
     [not found]         ` <CANP1eJEj2buvwaU-jum=GROowY6DrysQ0NU+weXstn=83yVspQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-16 22:56           ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-16 22:56             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-27  3:28   ` [PATCH v7 0/5] vfs: Non-blockling buffered fs read (page cache only) Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  3:28     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  5:41     ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27  5:41       ` Volker Lendecke
     [not found]       ` <E1YbN1J-0084qO-3s-dqLtpHMqGvUyWpdLl23E4A@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-27  6:08         ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  6:08           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]           ` <20150326230833.4ccfaebb.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-27  8:02             ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27  8:02               ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27  8:12               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-27  8:18     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-27  8:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20150327081822.GA28669-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-27  8:35         ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  8:35           ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  8:48           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20150327084833.GA7689-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-27  9:01               ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  9:01                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27  9:44                 ` Volker Lendecke
2015-03-27 15:58                 ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-27 15:58                   ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-27 16:30                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:39                     ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-27 16:39                       ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-27 16:39                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-27 16:45                     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-31  1:27                     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 16:38                   ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 16:38                     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30  7:36                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20150330073604.GB22229-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-30 17:19                       ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-30 17:19                         ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-30 22:51                         ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 20:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 20:26                       ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 20:32                       ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-30 20:37                         ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 20:49                           ` Jeremy Allison
2015-03-30 21:33                             ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 22:35                           ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 22:49                         ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 22:57                           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                             ` <20150330155700.92f4c8a0bf13418aaf01ae04-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-30 23:06                               ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 23:06                                 ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 23:25                       ` Milosz Tanski
2015-04-04  3:42                       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                         ` <20150403204209.75405f37.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-06  3:53                           ` Milosz Tanski
2015-04-06  3:53                             ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-30 23:09                     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 15:21     ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 15:21       ` Milosz Tanski
2015-03-27 17:04       ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30  7:40         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2015-03-30  7:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-30 18:54           ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 22:40             ` Milosz Tanski
     [not found]               ` <CANP1eJH4BcZ0vgZ6pZdKOd4orEzfKUqjpKXb3m=WMy0mbK+PFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-30 22:50                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-30 22:50                   ` Andrew Morton

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