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From: Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: "aik@au1.ibm.com" <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
	"anton@au1.ibm.com" <anton@au1.ibm.com>,
	"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"sparclinux@vger.kernel.org" <sparclinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:25:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150331152511.GB20062@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CB118E4@AcuExch.aculab.com>

On (03/31/15 15:15), David Laight wrote:
> 
> I've wondered whether the iommu setup for ethernet receive (in particular)
> could be made much more efficient if there were a function that
> would unmap one buffer and map a second buffer?
> My thought is that iommu pte entry used by the old buffer could just
> be modified to reference the new one.
> In effect each ring entry would end up using a fixed iommu pte.

There are a number of interesting things to investigate in
this space, and the above is just one of them, ways to avoid
the overhead of a full-blown map/unmap on each call. See 
  http://www.spinics.net/lists/sparclinux/msg13613.html

But the scope of this patchset is actually very rigidly defined:
to refactor the iommu pool/arena allocator into a common library,
and avoid code duplication (today even the single sparc arch
duplicates it for sun4[u,v] and ldc, and that's not even counting
the duplication across other archs/pci-drivers).

Investigating ways to provide a generalized infra that can
avoid a dma map/unmp for every packet would be a good follow-on.

> The other question is how much data can be copied in 26us ?
> On iommu systems 'copybreak' limits on receive and transmit
> may need to be quite high.

where does the "26us" number come from? I may be missing that context?

--Sowmini

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From: Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: "aik@au1.ibm.com" <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
	"anton@au1.ibm.com" <anton@au1.ibm.com>,
	"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"sparclinux@vger.kernel.org" <sparclinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:25:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150331152511.GB20062@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CB118E4@AcuExch.aculab.com>

On (03/31/15 15:15), David Laight wrote:
> 
> I've wondered whether the iommu setup for ethernet receive (in particular)
> could be made much more efficient if there were a function that
> would unmap one buffer and map a second buffer?
> My thought is that iommu pte entry used by the old buffer could just
> be modified to reference the new one.
> In effect each ring entry would end up using a fixed iommu pte.

There are a number of interesting things to investigate in
this space, and the above is just one of them, ways to avoid
the overhead of a full-blown map/unmap on each call. See 
  http://www.spinics.net/lists/sparclinux/msg13613.html

But the scope of this patchset is actually very rigidly defined:
to refactor the iommu pool/arena allocator into a common library,
and avoid code duplication (today even the single sparc arch
duplicates it for sun4[u,v] and ldc, and that's not even counting
the duplication across other archs/pci-drivers).

Investigating ways to provide a generalized infra that can
avoid a dma map/unmp for every packet would be a good follow-on.

> The other question is how much data can be copied in 26us ?
> On iommu systems 'copybreak' limits on receive and transmit
> may need to be quite high.

where does the "26us" number come from? I may be missing that context?

--Sowmini

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-31 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-31 14:40 [PATCH v8 RFC 0/3] Generic IOMMU pooled allocator Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 14:40 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 14:40 ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 14:40   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 15:15   ` David Laight
2015-03-31 15:15     ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l David Laight
2015-03-31 15:25     ` Sowmini Varadhan [this message]
2015-03-31 15:25       ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 20:54   ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 20:54     ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 21:43     ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 21:43       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 21:57       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 21:57         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:01         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:01           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:02           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:02             ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:15         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 22:15           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 22:19           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:19             ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 21:54     ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 21:54       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 22:08       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 22:08         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-03  0:42       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock David Miller
2015-04-03  0:42         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l David Miller
2015-04-03 18:28     ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-03 18:28       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-03 21:06       ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-03 21:06         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-03 21:51         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-03 21:51           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-04 11:27         ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-04 11:27           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-04 13:33           ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and lock Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-04 13:33             ` [PATCH v8 RFC 1/3] sparc: Break up monolithic iommu table/lock into finer graularity pools and l Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-03-31 14:40 ` [PATCH v8 RFC 2/3] sparc: Make sparc64 use scalable lib/iommu-common.c functions Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 14:40   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 14:40 ` [PATCH v8 RFC 3/3] sparc: Make LDC use common iommu poll management functions Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 14:40   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 18:06 ` [PATCH v8 RFC 0/3] Generic IOMMU pooled allocator Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 18:06   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-03-31 18:08   ` David Miller
2015-03-31 18:08     ` David Miller
2015-04-01  1:01   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-01  1:01     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-01  1:08     ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-01  1:08       ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-01  3:12       ` David Miller
2015-04-01  3:12         ` David Miller
2015-04-02 12:51         ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 12:51           ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-04-02 16:21           ` David Miller
2015-04-02 16:21             ` David Miller
2015-04-02 20:22             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 20:22               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 20:52               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-04-02 20:52                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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