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From: Zhuang Jin Can <jin.can.zhuang@intel.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, pmladek@suse.cz,
	peter.chen@freescale.com, jwerner@chromium.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: core: add usb3 lpm sysfs
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:51:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150428165127.GA26638@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150428104224.GB540@kroah.com>

Hi Greg KH,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:42:24PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:46:12AM +0800, Zhuang Jin Can wrote:
> > Some usb3 devices may not support usb3 lpm well.
> > The patch adds a sysfs to enable/disable u1 or u2 of the port.The
> > settings apply to both before and after device enumeration.
> > Supported values are "0" - u1 and u2 are disabled, "u1" - only u1 is
> > enabled, "u2" - only u2 is enabled, "u1_u2" - u1 and u2 are enabled.
> > 
> > The interface is useful for testing some USB3 devices during
> > development, and provides a way to disable usb3 lpm if the issues can
> > not be fixed in final products.
> 
> How is a user supposed to "know" to make this setting for a device?  Why
> can't the kernel automatically set this value properly?  Why does it
> need to be a kernel issue at all?
> 
By default kernel enables u1 u2 of all USB3 devices. This interface
provides the user to change this policy. User may set the policy
according to PID/VID of uevent or according to the platform information
known by userspace.

It's not a kernel issue, as u1 u2 is mandatory by USB3 compliance. But
for some internal hardwired USB3 connection, e.g. SSIC, passing USB3
compliance is not mandatory. So the interface provides a way for vendor
to ship with u1 or u2 broken products. Of course, this is not encouraged :).

> And when you are doing development of broken devices, the kernel doesn't
> have to support you, you can run with debugging patches of your own
> until you fix your firmware :)
> 
Understood. But I think other vendor or developer may face the same
issue in final product shipment or during development. Moreover, the
interface provide the flexibility for developer to separately
disable/enable u1 or u2, e.g. If they're debugging an u2 issue, they
can disable u1 to simplify the situtation.

Thanks
Jincan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-28 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-19  3:46 [PATCH] usb: core: add usb3 lpm sysfs Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-22  9:21 ` Zhuang Jin Can
     [not found] ` <20150419034612.GA31576-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-28 10:42   ` Greg KH
2015-04-28 10:42     ` Greg KH
2015-04-28 16:51     ` Zhuang Jin Can [this message]
2015-04-28 21:11       ` Greg KH
     [not found]         ` <20150428211110.GA32383-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29  7:20           ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-29  7:20             ` Zhuang Jin Can
     [not found]             ` <20150429072004.GA20961-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29  9:01               ` Greg KH
2015-04-29  9:01                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                 ` <20150429090148.GA22743-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 10:57                   ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-29 10:57                     ` Zhuang Jin Can
     [not found]                     ` <20150429105730.GA12505-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 11:06                       ` Greg KH
2015-04-29 11:06                         ` Greg KH
     [not found]                         ` <20150429110622.GA26820-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 16:21                           ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-29 16:21                             ` Zhuang Jin Can
     [not found]                             ` <20150429162132.GA21141-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 19:57                               ` Greg KH
2015-04-29 19:57                                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <20150429195733.GA19183-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-30  8:49                                   ` Zhuang Jin Can
2015-04-30  8:49                                     ` Zhuang Jin Can

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