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From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Gabriele Mazzotta <gabriele.mzt@gmail.com>
Cc: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"Alex Hung" <alex.hung@canonical.com>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	"platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org"
	<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] platform: x86: dell-rbtn: Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 22:55:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506055546.GA7523@vmdeb7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1828808.mVmCDTOvJh@xps13>

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 11:23:05PM +0200, Gabriele Mazzotta wrote:
> On Thursday 30 April 2015 09:44:29 Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 April 2015 14:06:27 Alex Hung wrote:
> > > Method ABRT is to be used by driver to disable BIOS handling of radio
> > > button. So the changes in behaviours observed by Gabriele is expected.
> > > I have seen other systems behave the same way.
> > > 
> > 
> > Right, that after that ARBT call operating system get full control over
> > radio devices and ACPI/BIOS will not automatically enable/disable them.
> > I think this is OK.
> > 
> > But for that we need also support for manually enable/disable radio
> > devices and code for this support is missing. Or do DELLABCE/RBTN acpi
> > devices somehow support enabling/disabling it via system/kernel request?
> > 
> > > I do also see firmware only sends Notify(RBTN, 0x80) and no hard block
> > > whether ABRT(1) is called or not.  Thus keycode are the only option on
> > > those machines.
> > > 
> > 
> > Key is ok, but we *must* have ability to hard block it via some
> > ACPI/WMI/BIOS/FW/etc... call. Otherwise ARBT(1) is no go as users should
> > be able to enable/disable their radio devices (bluetooth for powersave)
> 
> Does it really matter in the end? As I understand it, radio devices are
> off either way.

As a point of reference for consideration, we recently dropped the Thinkpad
hardware mute button because it seriously complicated everything in what appears
to be a similar sort of situation. By eliminating the hardware mute and relying
purely on software mute, we were able to provide a much more consistently
functional driver.

Also note that this driver provided a "software_mute" module parameter to allow
the user to control this.

I believe this provides some relevant precedent for your consideration. I don't
want to add parameters casually, but it could be one is warranted here.

-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-06  5:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 15:09 [PATCH 0/3] Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver Pali Rohár
2014-11-23 15:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] platform: x86: dell-rbtn: " Pali Rohár
2014-11-24 20:09   ` Matthew Garrett
2014-11-24 20:55     ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-24 21:50       ` Matthew Garrett
2014-11-24 22:01         ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-28 11:33   ` Mika Westerberg
2014-11-28 11:45     ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-28 11:54       ` Mika Westerberg
2014-11-25 21:58         ` Darren Hart
2014-11-23 15:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] platform: x86: dell-rbtn: Export notifier for other kernel modules Pali Rohár
2014-11-25 22:39   ` Darren Hart
2015-04-29  9:55     ` Pali Rohár
2014-11-23 15:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] platform: x86: dell-laptop: Use dell-rbtn instead i8042 filter when possible Pali Rohár
2014-11-25 23:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver Darren Hart
2014-12-02  8:42   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-04  8:16     ` Alex Hung
2014-12-03 12:56       ` Darren Hart
2014-12-04  9:55       ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-03 13:00         ` Darren Hart
2014-12-05 20:38           ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-05 20:53             ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-05 21:03               ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-05 21:12                 ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-05 21:23                   ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-05 21:49                     ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-22  7:27                       ` Alex Hung
2014-12-22  9:21                         ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-22 12:35                         ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-22 19:16                         ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-24  9:13                           ` Alex Hung
2014-12-24 11:40                             ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-25  3:13                               ` Alex Hung
2014-12-25 20:11                                 ` Pali Rohár
2014-12-25 21:55                                   ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2014-12-29  7:27                                     ` Alex Hung
2014-12-29  8:32                                       ` Pali Rohár
2015-01-05  9:55                                         ` Alex Hung
2015-04-24  7:39                                   ` Alex Hung
2015-04-29  9:51 ` [PATCH v2 " Pali Rohár
2015-04-29  9:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] platform: x86: dell-rbtn: " Pali Rohár
2015-04-29 10:30     ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-04-29 10:30       ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-04-29 13:08       ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-29 13:57         ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-04-29 16:28           ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-29 17:54             ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-04-29 18:00               ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-29 18:11                 ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-04-29 18:16                   ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-29 18:41                     ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-04-29 18:59                       ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-30  6:06                         ` Alex Hung
2015-04-30  7:44                           ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-02 13:51                             ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-05-02 15:13                               ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-05 20:31                             ` Darren Hart
2015-05-05 21:23                             ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-05-06  5:55                               ` Darren Hart [this message]
2015-05-06  7:49                                 ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-06  9:34                               ` Alex Hung
2015-04-29  9:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] platform: x86: dell-rbtn: Export notifier for other kernel modules Pali Rohár
2015-04-29  9:51   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] platform: x86: dell-laptop: Use dell-rbtn instead i8042 filter when possible Pali Rohár
2015-05-03 10:38   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver Pali Rohár
2015-05-05 20:37     ` Darren Hart
2015-05-05 21:24       ` Gabriele Mazzotta
2015-05-06  7:58       ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-06  9:11     ` Alex Hung
2015-05-06  9:11       ` Alex Hung
2015-05-06 11:31       ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-06 21:57         ` Darren Hart
2015-05-07  2:24           ` Alex Hung
2015-05-13 11:48             ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-13 18:38               ` Darren Hart
2015-05-14 10:54 ` [PATCH v3 " Pali Rohár
2015-05-14 10:54   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] dell-rbtn: " Pali Rohár
2015-05-14 10:54   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] dell-rbtn: Export notifier for other kernel modules Pali Rohár
2015-05-22 22:45     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-23  1:05       ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-24  5:07         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-05-24 11:42           ` Pali Rohár
2015-05-14 10:54   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] dell-laptop: Use dell-rbtn instead i8042 filter when possible Pali Rohár
2015-05-18 18:07   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver Darren Hart
2015-05-27 21:28 ` [PATCH v4 " Pali Rohár
2015-05-27 21:28   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] dell-rbtn: " Pali Rohár
2015-05-27 21:28   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] dell-rbtn: Export notifier for other kernel modules Pali Rohár
2015-05-27 21:28   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] dell-laptop: Use dell-rbtn instead i8042 filter when possible Pali Rohár
2015-05-28  2:52     ` Darren Hart
2015-06-03  3:55       ` Darren Hart
2015-06-03  8:15         ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-04  5:16           ` Darren Hart
2015-06-06  8:24             ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-06  8:23 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver Pali Rohár
2015-06-06  8:23   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] dell-rbtn: " Pali Rohár
2015-06-06  8:23   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] dell-rbtn: Export notifier for other kernel modules Pali Rohár
2015-06-06  8:23   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] dell-laptop: Use dell-rbtn instead i8042 filter when possible Pali Rohár
2015-06-08  4:12   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Dell Airplane Mode Switch driver Darren Hart
2015-06-08  7:30     ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-11  4:55       ` Darren Hart

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