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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: "Opensource [Steve Twiss]" <stwiss.opensource@diasemi.com>
Cc: LINUXKERNEL <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 5/6] watchdog: da9062: DA9062 watchdog driver
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 13:06:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506200631.GA25846@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7014B21925B@SW-EX-MBX02.diasemi.com>

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 04:30:50PM +0000, Opensource [Steve Twiss] wrote:
> 
> On 06 May 2015 17:02 Guenter Roeck wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 02:54:37PM +0000, Opensource [Steve Twiss] wrote:
> > > On 18 April 2015 16:53 Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Guenter,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comments.
> > >
> > > > On 04/17/2015 07:23 AM, S Twiss wrote:
> > > > > From: S Twiss <stwiss.opensource@diasemi.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Add watchdog driver support for DA9062
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Twiss <stwiss.opensource@diasemi.com>
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > Key question here is if the da9062 is really so much different to the da9062
> > > > that you can not use the same driver.
> > >
> > > The DA9062 watchdog driver does have some similarities with the DA9063 watchdog
> > > base functionality -- however the watchdog component in the DA9062 chip has more
> > > features yet to be added in software. I do intend to add these other features ...
> > > however, if "not adding them here" is a problem I can drop the DA9062 watchdog
> > > driver from this patch-set until I have time to write in the newer changes.
> > >
> > > > I am especially concerned about the added da9062_reset_watchdog_timer(),
> > > > given the delay it introduces.
> > >
> > > After giving this some thought, I am going to remove this 300ms delay from the
> > > reset_watchdog_timer() function for my next submission attempt. However
> > > I am adding a 300ms delay into the stop() and update_timeout_register() functions
> > > instead.
> > >
> > > The DA9062 watchdog ping (register CONTROL_F) is "windowed" for protection
> > > against spurious writes -- i.e. the ping function cannot be called within a 250ms
> > > time limit or the PMIC will reset. This windowing protection also extends to altering
> > > the timeout scale in the CONTROL_D register -- in which case if the timeout
> > > register is altered and the ping() function is called within the 250ms limit, the
> > > PMIC will reset. The delay is there to stop that from happening.
> > >
> > > I realised my previous patch was over-sanitised: by putting the time delay into the
> > > ping() function I was protecting CONTROL_D in stop() and update_timeout_register(),
> > > but I was being too over-protective of the ping() function. Therefore if there was an
> > > "incorrect trigger signal", the watchdog would not be allowed to fail because the
> > > driver would have filtered out the errors.
> > >
> > Hi Steve,
> > 
> > From your description, it sounds like the protection is only necessary if there
> > was a previous write to the same register(s). If so, it might make sense to
> > record the time of such writes, and only add the delay if necessary, and only
> > for the remainder of the time.
> > 
> > Would this be possible ?
> > 
> 
> Hi Guenter,
> 
> I think so -- sounds like it should be possible.
> Internally, there are several places where the two registers are written in succession.
> Also, I'll have to re-write my tests in several places.
> 
> Probably the best solution would be to defer this watchdog driver for now, and I'll
> re-submit it at a later date once the other parts of the DA9062 driver are [hopefully :)]
> accepted. That way I can concentrate a solid block of time on the re-testing ... this
> is the most time consuming.
> 
Keeping track of the necessary timeout is not mandatory - that was just a
thought. If that would hold you up, just ignore the above and keep going.

> Is that acceptable to you? -- I don't want to lose your existing comments from your
> previous posts, so I will keep track of those changes you have already requested.
> 
Your call, really. I am fine either way.

Guenter

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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: "Opensource [Steve Twiss]" <stwiss.opensource@diasemi.com>
Cc: LINUXKERNEL <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LINUXWATCHDOG <linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org>,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	DEVICETREE <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Dajun Chen <david.chen@diasemi.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	LINUXINPUT <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	RTCLINUX <rtc-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	Support Opensource <Support.Opensource@diasemi.com>
Subject: [rtc-linux] Re: [PATCH V1 5/6] watchdog: da9062: DA9062 watchdog driver
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 13:06:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506200631.GA25846@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7014B21925B@SW-EX-MBX02.diasemi.com>

On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 04:30:50PM +0000, Opensource [Steve Twiss] wrote:
> 
> On 06 May 2015 17:02 Guenter Roeck wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 02:54:37PM +0000, Opensource [Steve Twiss] wrote:
> > > On 18 April 2015 16:53 Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Guenter,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your comments.
> > >
> > > > On 04/17/2015 07:23 AM, S Twiss wrote:
> > > > > From: S Twiss <stwiss.opensource@diasemi.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Add watchdog driver support for DA9062
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Steve Twiss <stwiss.opensource@diasemi.com>
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Steve,
> > > >
> > > > Key question here is if the da9062 is really so much different to the da9062
> > > > that you can not use the same driver.
> > >
> > > The DA9062 watchdog driver does have some similarities with the DA9063 watchdog
> > > base functionality -- however the watchdog component in the DA9062 chip has more
> > > features yet to be added in software. I do intend to add these other features ...
> > > however, if "not adding them here" is a problem I can drop the DA9062 watchdog
> > > driver from this patch-set until I have time to write in the newer changes.
> > >
> > > > I am especially concerned about the added da9062_reset_watchdog_timer(),
> > > > given the delay it introduces.
> > >
> > > After giving this some thought, I am going to remove this 300ms delay from the
> > > reset_watchdog_timer() function for my next submission attempt. However
> > > I am adding a 300ms delay into the stop() and update_timeout_register() functions
> > > instead.
> > >
> > > The DA9062 watchdog ping (register CONTROL_F) is "windowed" for protection
> > > against spurious writes -- i.e. the ping function cannot be called within a 250ms
> > > time limit or the PMIC will reset. This windowing protection also extends to altering
> > > the timeout scale in the CONTROL_D register -- in which case if the timeout
> > > register is altered and the ping() function is called within the 250ms limit, the
> > > PMIC will reset. The delay is there to stop that from happening.
> > >
> > > I realised my previous patch was over-sanitised: by putting the time delay into the
> > > ping() function I was protecting CONTROL_D in stop() and update_timeout_register(),
> > > but I was being too over-protective of the ping() function. Therefore if there was an
> > > "incorrect trigger signal", the watchdog would not be allowed to fail because the
> > > driver would have filtered out the errors.
> > >
> > Hi Steve,
> > 
> > From your description, it sounds like the protection is only necessary if there
> > was a previous write to the same register(s). If so, it might make sense to
> > record the time of such writes, and only add the delay if necessary, and only
> > for the remainder of the time.
> > 
> > Would this be possible ?
> > 
> 
> Hi Guenter,
> 
> I think so -- sounds like it should be possible.
> Internally, there are several places where the two registers are written in succession.
> Also, I'll have to re-write my tests in several places.
> 
> Probably the best solution would be to defer this watchdog driver for now, and I'll
> re-submit it at a later date once the other parts of the DA9062 driver are [hopefully :)]
> accepted. That way I can concentrate a solid block of time on the re-testing ... this
> is the most time consuming.
> 
Keeping track of the necessary timeout is not mandatory - that was just a
thought. If that would hold you up, just ignore the above and keep going.

> Is that acceptable to you? -- I don't want to lose your existing comments from your
> previous posts, so I will keep track of those changes you have already requested.
> 
Your call, really. I am fine either way.

Guenter

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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-17 14:23 [PATCH V1 0/6] COVER LETTER S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [PATCH V1 2/6] regulator: da9062: DA9062 regulator driver S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23   ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
2015-04-18  8:32   ` Paul Bolle
2015-04-18  8:32     ` [rtc-linux] " Paul Bolle
2015-04-18 11:48   ` Mark Brown
2015-04-18 11:48     ` [rtc-linux] " Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20150418114828.GG26185-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 14:47       ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-24 14:47         ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-24 14:47         ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
     [not found]         ` <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7014B2175E5-68WUHU125fLzLL1Oxlh9IgLouzNaz+3S@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 15:24           ` Mark Brown
2015-04-24 15:24             ` Mark Brown
2015-04-24 15:24             ` [rtc-linux] " Mark Brown
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [PATCH V1 1/6] mfd: da9062: DA9062 MFD core driver S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23   ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
     [not found]   ` <b3bb4bc09cd94b0b13c713d98dd64576722123c1.1429280614.git.stwiss.opensource-WBD+wuPFNBhBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-18  8:27     ` Paul Bolle
2015-04-18  8:27       ` Paul Bolle
2015-04-18  8:27       ` [rtc-linux] " Paul Bolle
2015-04-24 14:47   ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-24 14:47     ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-24 14:47     ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [PATCH V1 3/6] rtc: da9062: DA9062 RTC driver S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23   ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
2015-05-10  9:58   ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-05-10  9:58     ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-05-13 12:31     ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-13 12:31       ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
     [not found]       ` <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7014B22A3F3-68WUHU125fLzLL1Oxlh9IgLouzNaz+3S@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 12:58         ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-05-13 12:58           ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-05-13 12:58           ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-05-13 13:04           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-13 13:04             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-13 13:37             ` Alexandre Belloni
2015-05-13 13:37               ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]               ` <20150513133741.GY3338-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 13:46                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-13 13:46                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-13 13:46                   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-13 14:56                   ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-13 14:56                     ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [PATCH V1 4/6] input: misc: onkey: da9062: DA9062 OnKey driver S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23   ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
     [not found]   ` <c05802897197e71839a33b1f5ac224031b14e65b.1429280614.git.stwiss.opensource-WBD+wuPFNBhBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 16:12     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-04-17 16:12       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-04-17 16:12       ` [rtc-linux] " Dmitry Torokhov
2015-04-29 15:18       ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-29 15:18         ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [PATCH V1 6/6] devicetree: da9062: Add bindings for DA9062 driver S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23   ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
     [not found]   ` <94535acf974274822c5ac16d6427299778e11ccf.1429280614.git.stwiss.opensource-WBD+wuPFNBhBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-29 10:54     ` Lee Jones
2015-04-29 10:54       ` Lee Jones
2015-04-29 10:54       ` [rtc-linux] " Lee Jones
2015-04-29 11:26       ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-29 11:26         ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-29 11:26         ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-29 11:26         ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-04-17 14:23 ` [PATCH V1 5/6] watchdog: da9062: DA9062 watchdog driver S Twiss
2015-04-17 14:23   ` [rtc-linux] " S Twiss
2015-04-18 15:52   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-04-18 15:52     ` [rtc-linux] " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]     ` <55327DDA.4080003-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 14:54       ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-06 14:54         ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-06 14:54         ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
     [not found]         ` <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7014B21924A-68WUHU125fLzLL1Oxlh9IgLouzNaz+3S@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 16:02           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-06 16:02             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-06 16:02             ` [rtc-linux] " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]             ` <20150506160227.GA28101-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 16:30               ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-06 16:30                 ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-06 16:30                 ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-06 20:06                 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-05-06 20:06                   ` [rtc-linux] " Guenter Roeck
2015-05-07 17:45                   ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-07 17:45                     ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-07 17:45                     ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
     [not found]                     ` <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7014B221DD2-68WUHU125fLzLL1Oxlh9IgLouzNaz+3S@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-07 17:57                       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-07 17:57                         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-05-07 17:57                         ` [rtc-linux] " Guenter Roeck
2015-05-07 19:02                         ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-07 19:02                           ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-08 13:46     ` Opensource [Steve Twiss]
2015-05-08 13:46       ` [rtc-linux] " Opensource [Steve Twiss]
     [not found] ` <cover.1429280614.git.stwiss.opensource-WBD+wuPFNBhBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-18 15:54   ` [PATCH V1 0/6] COVER LETTER Guenter Roeck
2015-04-18 15:54     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-04-18 15:54     ` [rtc-linux] " Guenter Roeck

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