From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-spi <linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Martin Sperl <kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>,
Michal Suchanek
<hramrach-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:41:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513194106.GG4004@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWJ730G_a6=vQgs4gV837am5KKd7zEhU2FaHw2cpv=aRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 09:10:48PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Maxime Ripard
> <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > This also adds an i2cdev-like feeling, where you get all the
> >> > spidev devices all the time, without any modification.
> >>
> >> I2C is a bit safer here since it's a shared bus so you can't do
> >> anything to devices not connected to the bus by mistake.
> >
> > I'm not sure to understand what you mean here. How is SPI different
> > from that aspect?
>
> If you talk to a nonexistent i2c device, nothing happens, as it just sends
> a message with a nonexistent address on the shared bus.
>
> If you talk to a nonexistent spi device, hell may break loose if e.g. some
> "smart" hardware engineer used the "unused" CS as a pull-up for the
> _RESET line on an external device... It's a bit like banging random
> "unused" GPIOs.
Ah, right. I'm always surprised by how creative the hardware engineers
actually are :)
Maxime
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Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
linux-spi <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
Martin Sperl <kernel@martin.sperl.org>,
Michal Suchanek <hramrach@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:41:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513194106.GG4004@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWJ730G_a6=vQgs4gV837am5KKd7zEhU2FaHw2cpv=aRA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 09:10:48PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Maxime Ripard
> <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com> wrote:
> >> > This also adds an i2cdev-like feeling, where you get all the
> >> > spidev devices all the time, without any modification.
> >>
> >> I2C is a bit safer here since it's a shared bus so you can't do
> >> anything to devices not connected to the bus by mistake.
> >
> > I'm not sure to understand what you mean here. How is SPI different
> > from that aspect?
>
> If you talk to a nonexistent i2c device, nothing happens, as it just sends
> a message with a nonexistent address on the shared bus.
>
> If you talk to a nonexistent spi device, hell may break loose if e.g. some
> "smart" hardware engineer used the "unused" CS as a pull-up for the
> _RESET line on an external device... It's a bit like banging random
> "unused" GPIOs.
Ah, right. I'm always surprised by how creative the hardware engineers
actually are :)
Maxime
--
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-13 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-12 20:33 [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Maxime Ripard
2015-05-12 20:33 ` Maxime Ripard
[not found] ` <1431462804-30467-1-git-send-email-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 9:34 ` [PATCH] spi: Add option to bind spidev to all chipselects Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 9:34 ` Michal Suchanek
[not found] ` <20150513093441.80359.qmail-ve7rdfgbAvJ3WEpVTuSGmqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 10:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 10:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 10:40 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 10:40 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 11:05 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:05 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:26 ` [PATCH] spi: Force the registration of the spidev devices Mark Brown
2015-05-13 11:26 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513112604.GI3066-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 12:35 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 12:35 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 12:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 12:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 14:36 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 14:36 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513143610.GT2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 15:31 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 15:31 ` Michal Suchanek
[not found] ` <CAOMqctTd7xG6mwX9AojTH4uaGDY06xOgDFUP437VDiE0rp0sXA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:43 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 17:43 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 19:09 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 19:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdWJ730G_a6=vQgs4gV837am5KKd7zEhU2FaHw2cpv=aRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:41 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2015-05-13 19:41 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 15:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 15:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513153740.GC11677-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 15:52 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 15:52 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-05-13 17:13 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 17:13 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513171300.GD2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 17:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513172028.GA18303-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 17:39 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 17:39 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513173922.GF2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:16 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:32 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513183211.GK2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513183653.GA879-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 18:51 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:51 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20150513185149.GL2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 19:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 17:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 17:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 18:12 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-13 18:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 18:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513181736.GC16811-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 19:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-13 19:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 19:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-05-13 22:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-05-13 22:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20150513223331.GA26748-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 14:34 ` Mark Brown
2015-05-14 14:34 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-15 6:27 ` Lucas De Marchi
2015-07-15 6:27 ` Lucas De Marchi
2015-05-15 8:09 ` Maxime Ripard
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2014-04-28 17:22 Maxime Ripard
2014-04-28 17:22 ` Maxime Ripard
[not found] ` <1398705774-12361-1-git-send-email-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:37 ` Mark Brown
2014-04-29 18:37 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20140429183758.GH15125-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 21:31 ` Martin Sperl
[not found] ` <24BF05CB-35FF-42E8-BE5C-A5E4E3D0C52A-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 18:14 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-04-30 20:00 ` Martin Sperl
[not found] ` <DA3907EB-0C1B-42FB-B288-9E33F6E24E3E-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 22:19 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 1:21 ` Mark Brown
2014-04-30 18:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-04-30 18:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 1:18 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-01 1:18 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20140501011811.GF3245-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-01 22:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 22:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-01 23:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdUWa1_n94sDvv=L_goc+SOnD9CAKi5DzifrY7GWYRdQmw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-02 16:55 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 16:55 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 4:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 7:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
[not found] ` <CAMuHMdWZ1rvC+tkT=CbfMwZtppyJ_KpzT7JrLd5k5P2oxzA+8g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 13:57 ` Alexandre Belloni
2014-05-05 13:57 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20140505135701.GA21940-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-05 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-05 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-05 19:16 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:40 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:40 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 4:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-05 19:17 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-05 19:17 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20140505191723.GK22111-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-08 2:22 ` Maxime Ripard
2014-05-08 2:22 ` Maxime Ripard
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