From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"timur@codeaurora.org" <timur@codeaurora.org>,
"vgandhi@codeaurora.org" <vgandhi@codeaurora.org>,
"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
arm-mail-list <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64/kvm: Add generic v8 KVM target
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:51:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624085128.GA22785@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558A6A84.5020603@arm.com>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 09:29:56AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 22/06/15 09:44, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > On 17 June 2015 at 10:00, Suzuki K. Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:
> >> From: "Suzuki K. Poulose" <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
> >>
> >> This patch adds a generic ARM v8 KVM target cpu type for use
> >> by the new CPUs which eventualy ends up using the common sys_reg
> >> table. For backward compatibility the existing targets have been
> >> preserved. Any new target CPU that can be covered by generic v8
> >> sys_reg tables should make use of the new generic target.
> >
> > How do you intend this to work for cross-host migration?
>
> It is not meant to work for cross migration at all.
>
> > Is the idea that the kernel guarantees that "generic" looks
> > 100% the same to the guest regardless of host hardware? I'm
> > not sure that can be made to work, given impdef differences
> > in ID register values, bp/wp registers, and so on.
> >
> > Given that, it seems to me that we still need to provide
> > KVM_ARM_TARGET_$THISCPU defines so userspace can request
> > a specific guest CPU flavour; so what does this patch
> > provide that isn't already provided by just having userspace
> > query for the "preferred" CPU type as it does already?
>
> The way I see this working is that a "generic" CPU cannot be migrated
> (because we don't know anything about it). If it can be identified as a
> known (non generic) implementation, then we can migrate it.
>
Concretely, how should this work? Be enforced by userspace or should we
deny certain SET_ONE_REG operations from working on this target?
Also, can we imagine any scenario where the generic CPU cannot me
modeled for a VM on a specific piece of hardware (current or future)?
-Christoffer
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From: christoffer.dall@linaro.org (Christoffer Dall)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] arm64/kvm: Add generic v8 KVM target
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:51:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624085128.GA22785@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558A6A84.5020603@arm.com>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 09:29:56AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 22/06/15 09:44, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > On 17 June 2015 at 10:00, Suzuki K. Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com> wrote:
> >> From: "Suzuki K. Poulose" <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
> >>
> >> This patch adds a generic ARM v8 KVM target cpu type for use
> >> by the new CPUs which eventualy ends up using the common sys_reg
> >> table. For backward compatibility the existing targets have been
> >> preserved. Any new target CPU that can be covered by generic v8
> >> sys_reg tables should make use of the new generic target.
> >
> > How do you intend this to work for cross-host migration?
>
> It is not meant to work for cross migration at all.
>
> > Is the idea that the kernel guarantees that "generic" looks
> > 100% the same to the guest regardless of host hardware? I'm
> > not sure that can be made to work, given impdef differences
> > in ID register values, bp/wp registers, and so on.
> >
> > Given that, it seems to me that we still need to provide
> > KVM_ARM_TARGET_$THISCPU defines so userspace can request
> > a specific guest CPU flavour; so what does this patch
> > provide that isn't already provided by just having userspace
> > query for the "preferred" CPU type as it does already?
>
> The way I see this working is that a "generic" CPU cannot be migrated
> (because we don't know anything about it). If it can be identified as a
> known (non generic) implementation, then we can migrate it.
>
Concretely, how should this work? Be enforced by userspace or should we
deny certain SET_ONE_REG operations from working on this target?
Also, can we imagine any scenario where the generic CPU cannot me
modeled for a VM on a specific piece of hardware (current or future)?
-Christoffer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-24 8:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-17 9:00 [PATCH] arm64/kvm: Add generic v8 KVM target Suzuki K. Poulose
2015-06-17 9:00 ` Suzuki K. Poulose
2015-06-19 20:31 ` Timur Tabi
2015-06-19 20:31 ` Timur Tabi
2015-06-22 6:47 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-22 6:47 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-22 8:44 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-22 8:44 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-23 12:39 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-23 12:39 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-23 14:03 ` Suzuki K. Poulose
2015-06-23 14:03 ` Suzuki K. Poulose
2015-06-23 14:16 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-23 14:16 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-24 8:29 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-24 8:29 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-24 8:51 ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2015-06-24 8:51 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-24 9:32 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-24 9:32 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 12:30 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-25 12:30 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-25 12:40 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 12:40 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 13:44 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 13:44 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-25 13:49 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-25 13:49 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-26 9:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-26 9:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-06-29 17:13 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-06-29 17:13 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-06-29 17:30 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-29 17:30 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-29 17:38 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-29 17:38 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-29 17:52 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-29 17:52 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-06-29 18:39 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-06-29 18:39 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-07-02 20:29 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-07-03 8:08 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03 8:08 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03 8:12 ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-03 8:12 ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-03 8:28 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03 8:28 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03 9:34 ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-03 9:34 ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-03 10:10 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-03 10:10 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 9:33 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-17 9:33 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-17 9:56 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 9:56 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 10:15 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-17 10:15 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-17 10:19 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 10:19 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-07-17 17:56 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2015-07-17 17:56 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
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