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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@dowhile0.org>
Cc: "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel@stlinux.com,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Ajit Pal Singh <ajitpal.singh@st.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable support for PWM Regulators
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 13:31:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150701123146.GK3210@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABxcv==dWX_J_+zhqjn61QXGtxCKmK62_HEj4R7wsMAWcC=H=Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >> > diff --git a/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig b/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig
> >> >> > index f632af0..6666973 100644
> >> >> > --- a/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig
> >> >> > +++ b/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig
> >> >> > @@ -365,6 +365,7 @@ CONFIG_REGULATOR_MAX8907=y
> >> >> >  CONFIG_REGULATOR_MAX8973=y
> >> >> >  CONFIG_REGULATOR_MAX77686=y
> >> >> >  CONFIG_REGULATOR_PALMAS=y
> >> >> > +CONFIG_REGULATOR_PWM=y
> >> >>
> >> >> The current policy is to build as much as possible as a module in
> >> >> multi_v7_defconfig. Since this is a tristate Kconfig symbol, could you
> >> >> please change it to =m ?
> >> >
> >> > I would prefer that it stays built-in.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ok, I've no strong opinion on this. I was just mentioning what arm-soc
> >> maintainers prefer nowadays.
> >>
> >> May I ask what's the rationale for leaving this option built-in?
> >
> > My view is that multi_v7 is used for prototyping, testing and to
> > ensure all of the vendors are playing nice together.  Hopefully
> > vendors aren't actually releasing kernels built with this defconfig!
> 
> Agreed and same for the per SoC family defconfigs, vendors should ship
> kernels with a customized defconfig.

Right.

> > During testing/prototyping time; installing and messing around with
> > modules is an over-head I can do without.
> 
> Right but my question wasn't whether multi_v7 should have the options
> as built-in or as modules. That has already been decided by the
> arm-soc maintainers who want to have as much as possible as modules.
> In fact, there have been patches posted recently to change the current
> multi_v7 options from built-in to modules.

Then I need to either stop using multi_v7 or write a pre-build script
to turn it into something useful I guess.

Thanks for the heads-up.

> Instead my question was what makes this driver special to not follow
> the current convention.

There is nothing special about this particular driver to warrant that.

> I agree that there is a trade off between having options as built-in
> or modules and I believe that is why most SoC specific defconfigs have
> the opposite policy,  that is to enable everything as built-in so one
> doesn't have to mess with modules as you said.

Precisely.

> But again, I don't have a strong opinion on this. What I think though
> is that this should be documented somewhere so the options are enabled
> following a documented rule instead of just whatever fits in someone
> workflow.

News of this new convention is new to me.  As I said, this driver
isn't in any way "special".  I was merely enabling it to make it
useful to everyone, rather than only people who are currently
supporting module support in their builds.  Which as a low-level guy,
I currently have no requirement for -- it just adds time, complexity
and more things to debug.

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: lee.jones@linaro.org (Lee Jones)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 7/9] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable support for PWM Regulators
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 13:31:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150701123146.GK3210@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABxcv==dWX_J_+zhqjn61QXGtxCKmK62_HEj4R7wsMAWcC=H=Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >> > diff --git a/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig b/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig
> >> >> > index f632af0..6666973 100644
> >> >> > --- a/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig
> >> >> > +++ b/arch/arm/configs/multi_v7_defconfig
> >> >> > @@ -365,6 +365,7 @@ CONFIG_REGULATOR_MAX8907=y
> >> >> >  CONFIG_REGULATOR_MAX8973=y
> >> >> >  CONFIG_REGULATOR_MAX77686=y
> >> >> >  CONFIG_REGULATOR_PALMAS=y
> >> >> > +CONFIG_REGULATOR_PWM=y
> >> >>
> >> >> The current policy is to build as much as possible as a module in
> >> >> multi_v7_defconfig. Since this is a tristate Kconfig symbol, could you
> >> >> please change it to =m ?
> >> >
> >> > I would prefer that it stays built-in.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ok, I've no strong opinion on this. I was just mentioning what arm-soc
> >> maintainers prefer nowadays.
> >>
> >> May I ask what's the rationale for leaving this option built-in?
> >
> > My view is that multi_v7 is used for prototyping, testing and to
> > ensure all of the vendors are playing nice together.  Hopefully
> > vendors aren't actually releasing kernels built with this defconfig!
> 
> Agreed and same for the per SoC family defconfigs, vendors should ship
> kernels with a customized defconfig.

Right.

> > During testing/prototyping time; installing and messing around with
> > modules is an over-head I can do without.
> 
> Right but my question wasn't whether multi_v7 should have the options
> as built-in or as modules. That has already been decided by the
> arm-soc maintainers who want to have as much as possible as modules.
> In fact, there have been patches posted recently to change the current
> multi_v7 options from built-in to modules.

Then I need to either stop using multi_v7 or write a pre-build script
to turn it into something useful I guess.

Thanks for the heads-up.

> Instead my question was what makes this driver special to not follow
> the current convention.

There is nothing special about this particular driver to warrant that.

> I agree that there is a trade off between having options as built-in
> or modules and I believe that is why most SoC specific defconfigs have
> the opposite policy,  that is to enable everything as built-in so one
> doesn't have to mess with modules as you said.

Precisely.

> But again, I don't have a strong opinion on this. What I think though
> is that this should be documented somewhere so the options are enabled
> following a documented rule instead of just whatever fits in someone
> workflow.

News of this new convention is new to me.  As I said, this driver
isn't in any way "special".  I was merely enabling it to make it
useful to everyone, rather than only people who are currently
supporting module support in their builds.  Which as a low-level guy,
I currently have no requirement for -- it just adds time, complexity
and more things to debug.

-- 
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org ? Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-01 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24 13:58 [PATCH v2 0/9] cpufreq: Introduce support for ST's cpufreq functionality Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:58 ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:58 ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] ARM: STi: STiH407: Provide generic (safe) DVFS configuration Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] ARM: STi: STiH407: Provide CPU with clocking information Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] ARM: STi: STiH407: Link CPU with its voltage supply Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] ARM: STi: STiH407: Provide CPU with a means to look-up Major number Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] ARM: STi: Register CPUFreq device Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] ARM: STi: STiH407: Move PWM nodes STiH407 => STiH407-family Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] dt: cpufreq: st: Provide bindings for ST's CPUFreq implementation Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] cpufreq: st: Provide runtime initialised driver for ST's platforms Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59   ` Lee Jones
     [not found] ` <1435154348-28840-1-git-send-email-lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-24 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable support for PWM Regulators Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59     ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 13:59     ` Lee Jones
2015-06-24 14:52     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-24 14:52       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-25  8:42       ` Lee Jones
2015-06-25  8:42         ` Lee Jones
2015-06-25  9:18         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-25  9:18           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-25 15:02           ` Lee Jones
2015-06-25 15:02             ` Lee Jones
2015-06-25 16:29             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-25 16:29               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-07-01 12:31               ` Lee Jones [this message]
2015-07-01 12:31                 ` Lee Jones
2015-07-08 10:50   ` [PATCH v2 0/9] cpufreq: Introduce support for ST's cpufreq functionality Viresh Kumar
2015-07-08 10:50     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-08 10:50     ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-08 10:59     ` Lee Jones
2015-07-08 10:59       ` Lee Jones
2015-07-08 11:12       ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-08 11:12         ` Viresh Kumar
2015-07-08 11:12         ` Viresh Kumar

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