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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Kinglong Mee <kinglongmee@gmail.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10 v7] nfsd: Allows user un-mounting filesystem where nfsd exports base on
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:19:10 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150713151910.0f493f49@noble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150713040258.GM17109@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 05:02:58 +0100 Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 01:39:34PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > It would be nice if pin_kill() would check ->done again after calling p->kill.
> > e.g.
> > 
> > diff --git a/fs/fs_pin.c b/fs/fs_pin.c
> > index 611b5408f6ec..c2ef5c9d4c0d 100644
> > --- a/fs/fs_pin.c
> > +++ b/fs/fs_pin.c
> > @@ -47,7 +47,9 @@ void pin_kill(struct fs_pin *p)
> >  		spin_unlock_irq(&p->wait.lock);
> >  		rcu_read_unlock();
> >  		p->kill(p);
> > -		return;
> > +		if (p->done > 0)
> > +			return;
> > +		spin_lock_irq(&p->wait.lock);
> >  	}
> >  	if (p->done > 0) {
> >  		spin_unlock_irq(&p->wait.lock);
> > 
> > I think that would close the last gap, without needing extra work
> > items and completion in the nfsd code.
> > 
> > Al: would you be OK with that change to pin_kill?
> 
> Hell, no.  Intended use is to have ->kill() free the damn thing, period.

It is not possible to revise that intention?
The apparent purpose of pin_kill() is to wait until the thing is freed,
or to trigger that freeing itself.  Why not do both: trigger then wait?


> This code is very careful about how it waits in the "found it before
> ->kill() has removed all pointers leading to that object" case.  No go.
> This change would break all existing users, with arseloads of extra
> complications for no good reason whatsoever.

Given that all current uses have ->kill() call pin_remove, and as
pin_remove sets ->done to 1, and as the patch makes no change to
behaviour when ->kill() completes with ->done set to 1, I don't see how
it can break anything.
'rcu' ensures that it is still save to examine p->done, and it will be
'1'.

Thanks,
NeilBrown


> 
> And frankly, I'm still not convinced that fs_pin is a good match for the
> problem here - I'm not saying it's impossible to produce an fs_pin-based
> solution (and I hadn't reviewed the latest iteration yet), but attempts so
> far didn't look particularly promising.


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From: NeilBrown <neilb-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kinglong Mee
	<kinglongmee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields"
	<bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Trond Myklebust
	<trond.myklebust-7I+n7zu2hftEKMMhf/gKZA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10 v7] nfsd: Allows user un-mounting filesystem where nfsd exports base on
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:19:10 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150713151910.0f493f49@noble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150713040258.GM17109-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 05:02:58 +0100 Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 01:39:34PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > It would be nice if pin_kill() would check ->done again after calling p->kill.
> > e.g.
> > 
> > diff --git a/fs/fs_pin.c b/fs/fs_pin.c
> > index 611b5408f6ec..c2ef5c9d4c0d 100644
> > --- a/fs/fs_pin.c
> > +++ b/fs/fs_pin.c
> > @@ -47,7 +47,9 @@ void pin_kill(struct fs_pin *p)
> >  		spin_unlock_irq(&p->wait.lock);
> >  		rcu_read_unlock();
> >  		p->kill(p);
> > -		return;
> > +		if (p->done > 0)
> > +			return;
> > +		spin_lock_irq(&p->wait.lock);
> >  	}
> >  	if (p->done > 0) {
> >  		spin_unlock_irq(&p->wait.lock);
> > 
> > I think that would close the last gap, without needing extra work
> > items and completion in the nfsd code.
> > 
> > Al: would you be OK with that change to pin_kill?
> 
> Hell, no.  Intended use is to have ->kill() free the damn thing, period.

It is not possible to revise that intention?
The apparent purpose of pin_kill() is to wait until the thing is freed,
or to trigger that freeing itself.  Why not do both: trigger then wait?


> This code is very careful about how it waits in the "found it before
> ->kill() has removed all pointers leading to that object" case.  No go.
> This change would break all existing users, with arseloads of extra
> complications for no good reason whatsoever.

Given that all current uses have ->kill() call pin_remove, and as
pin_remove sets ->done to 1, and as the patch makes no change to
behaviour when ->kill() completes with ->done set to 1, I don't see how
it can break anything.
'rcu' ensures that it is still save to examine p->done, and it will be
'1'.

Thanks,
NeilBrown


> 
> And frankly, I'm still not convinced that fs_pin is a good match for the
> problem here - I'm not saying it's impossible to produce an fs_pin-based
> solution (and I hadn't reviewed the latest iteration yet), but attempts so
> far didn't look particularly promising.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-13  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-11 12:46 [PATCH 00/10 v7] NFSD: Pin to vfsmount for nfsd exports cache Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:46 ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:47 ` [PATCH 01/10 v7] fs_pin: Initialize value for fs_pin explicitly Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:47   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:47 ` [PATCH 02/10 v7] fs_pin: Export functions for specific filesystem Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:47   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:48 ` [PATCH 03/10 v7] path: New helpers path_get_pin/path_put_unpin for path pin Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:48   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:48 ` [PATCH 04/10 v7] fs: New helper legitimize_mntget() for getting a legitimize mnt Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:48   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:49 ` [PATCH 05/10 v7] sunrpc: Store cache_detail in seq_file's private, directly Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:49 ` [PATCH 06/10 v7] sunrpc/nfsd: Remove redundant code by exports seq_operations functions Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:50 ` [PATCH 07/10 v7] sunrpc: Switch to using list_head instead single list Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:50   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-11 12:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-13  1:30   ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  8:27     ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-13  8:27       ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:51 ` [PATCH 08/10 v7] sunrpc: New helper cache_delete_entry for deleting cache_head directly Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:51 ` [PATCH 09/10 v7] sunrpc: Support get_ref/put_ref for reference change in cache_head Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:51   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:52 ` [PATCH 10/10 v7] nfsd: Allows user un-mounting filesystem where nfsd exports base on Kinglong Mee
2015-07-11 12:52   ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-13  3:39   ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  3:39     ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  4:02     ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  5:19       ` NeilBrown [this message]
2015-07-13  5:19         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  6:02         ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  6:02           ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  4:20     ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  4:45       ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  4:45         ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  5:21         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  5:21           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  6:02           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  6:02             ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  6:08             ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  6:08               ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  6:32               ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  6:32                 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  6:43                 ` Al Viro
2015-07-13  6:43                   ` Al Viro
2015-07-15  3:49                   ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15  4:57                     ` Al Viro
2015-07-15  4:57                       ` Al Viro
2015-07-15  6:51                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24  2:05         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-27  2:28           ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-27  2:51             ` NeilBrown
2015-07-27  2:51               ` NeilBrown
2015-07-27  3:17               ` Kinglong Mee
2015-07-15 21:07     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-15 21:07       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-15 23:40       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15 23:40         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-16 20:51         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-16 20:51           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-21 21:58           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-21 21:58             ` NeilBrown
2015-07-22 15:08             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-22 15:08               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-23 23:46               ` export table lookup: was " NeilBrown
2015-07-23 23:46                 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24 19:48                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-24 19:48                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-25  0:40                   ` NeilBrown

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