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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Raghavendra K T
	<raghavendra.kt-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse
	<walken-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov
	<gorcunov-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v8 0/7] idle memory tracking
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:02:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150716100211.GC2001@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJu=L59MjY4F4G2bZh+hrt7aqw3R9mWPeYK65smQWUvMhz85aA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:47:15PM -0700, Andres Lagar-Cavilla wrote:
> I think the remaining question here is performance.
> 
> Have you conducted any studies where
> - there is a workload
> - a daemon is poking kpageidle every N seconds/minutes
> - what is the daemon cpu consumption?
> - what is the workload degradation if any?
> 
> N candidates include 30 seconds, 1 minute, 2 minutes, 5 minutes....
> 
> Workload candidates include TPC, spec int memory intensive things like
> 429.mcf, stream (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/ "sustainable
> memory bandwidth" vs floating point performance)
> 
> I'm not asking for a research paper, but if, say, a 2 minute-period
> daemon introduces no degradation and adds up to a minute of cpu per
> hour, then we're golden.

Fair enough. Will do that soon and report back.

Thanks a lot for the review, it was really helpful!

Vladimir

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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v8 0/7] idle memory tracking
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:02:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150716100211.GC2001@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJu=L59MjY4F4G2bZh+hrt7aqw3R9mWPeYK65smQWUvMhz85aA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:47:15PM -0700, Andres Lagar-Cavilla wrote:
> I think the remaining question here is performance.
> 
> Have you conducted any studies where
> - there is a workload
> - a daemon is poking kpageidle every N seconds/minutes
> - what is the daemon cpu consumption?
> - what is the workload degradation if any?
> 
> N candidates include 30 seconds, 1 minute, 2 minutes, 5 minutes....
> 
> Workload candidates include TPC, spec int memory intensive things like
> 429.mcf, stream (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/ "sustainable
> memory bandwidth" vs floating point performance)
> 
> I'm not asking for a research paper, but if, say, a 2 minute-period
> daemon introduces no degradation and adds up to a minute of cpu per
> hour, then we're golden.

Fair enough. Will do that soon and report back.

Thanks a lot for the review, it was really helpful!

Vladimir

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v8 0/7] idle memory tracking
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:02:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150716100211.GC2001@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJu=L59MjY4F4G2bZh+hrt7aqw3R9mWPeYK65smQWUvMhz85aA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:47:15PM -0700, Andres Lagar-Cavilla wrote:
> I think the remaining question here is performance.
> 
> Have you conducted any studies where
> - there is a workload
> - a daemon is poking kpageidle every N seconds/minutes
> - what is the daemon cpu consumption?
> - what is the workload degradation if any?
> 
> N candidates include 30 seconds, 1 minute, 2 minutes, 5 minutes....
> 
> Workload candidates include TPC, spec int memory intensive things like
> 429.mcf, stream (http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/ "sustainable
> memory bandwidth" vs floating point performance)
> 
> I'm not asking for a research paper, but if, say, a 2 minute-period
> daemon introduces no degradation and adds up to a minute of cpu per
> hour, then we're golden.

Fair enough. Will do that soon and report back.

Thanks a lot for the review, it was really helpful!

Vladimir

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-16 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-15 13:54 [PATCH -mm v8 0/7] idle memory tracking Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 1/7] memcg: add page_cgroup_ino helper Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <40a2af5afc7b70a133737226cd9e975df42936e7.1436967694.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 18:59     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 18:59       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 18:59       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 2/7] hwpoison: use page_cgroup_ino for filtering by memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <5c4d3594a5b0a79248fffae67ea677d54d06aacf.1436967694.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:00     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:00       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:00       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 3/7] memcg: zap try_get_mem_cgroup_from_page Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 4/7] proc: add kpagecgroup file Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 19:03   ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:03     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
     [not found]     ` <CAJu=L58kZW2WRpx8wLx=FXdS29BJ+euLRdDcTXJKwf-VLT6SCA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16  9:28       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-16  9:28         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-16  9:28         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-16 19:04         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
     [not found]           ` <CAJu=L5_AUFv=Bh2WiWwOsMx41z_X0cAum_WkNikSE4Bo0r+wfQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-17  9:27             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-17  9:27               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-17  9:27               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 5/7] mmu-notifier: add clear_young callback Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 19:16   ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:16     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-16 11:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-16 11:35       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 6/7] proc: add kpageidle file Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <a414d0458156434ca428c0c810db2e86878e1897.1436967694.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:42     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:42       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:42       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-16  9:53       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-16  9:53         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54 ` [PATCH -mm v8 7/7] proc: export idle flag via kpageflags Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-15 13:54   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <024b60a19e5ef246c9af3c5ff7652e71576e0bcc.1436967694.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:17     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:17       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 19:17       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 20:47 ` [PATCH -mm v8 0/7] idle memory tracking Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-15 20:47   ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
     [not found]   ` <CAJu=L59MjY4F4G2bZh+hrt7aqw3R9mWPeYK65smQWUvMhz85aA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 10:02     ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2015-07-16 10:02       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-16 10:02       ` Vladimir Davydov

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