From: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:35:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150727133555.GA17133@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B5F4FF.9070604@suse.cz>
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 07/24/2015 11:28 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >Changes from V4:
> >Drop all architectures for new sys call entries except x86[_64] and MIPS
> >Drop munlock2 and munlockall2
> >Make VM_LOCKONFAULT a modifier to VM_LOCKED only to simplify book keeping
> >Adjust tests to match
>
> Hi, thanks for considering my suggestions. Well, I do hope there
> were correct as API's are hard and I'm no API expert. But since
> API's are also impossible to change after merging, I'm sorry but
> I'll keep pestering for one last thing. Thanks again for persisting,
> I do believe it's for the good thing!
>
> The thing is that I still don't like that one has to call
> mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED) to get the equivalent of the old mlock(). Why
> is that flag needed? We have two modes of locking now, and v5 no
> longer treats them separately in vma flags. But having two flags
> gives us four possible combinations, so two of them would serve
> nothing but to confuse the programmer IMHO. What will mlock2()
> without flags do? What will mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED | MLOCK_ONFAULT) do?
> (Note I haven't studied the code yet, as having agreed on the API
> should come first. But I did suggest documenting these things more
> thoroughly too...)
> OK I checked now and both cases above seem to return EINVAL.
>
> So about the only point I see in MLOCK_LOCKED flag is parity with
> MAP_LOCKED for mmap(). But as Kirill said (and me before as well)
> MAP_LOCKED is broken anyway so we shouldn't twist the rest just of
> the API to keep the poor thing happier in its misery.
>
> Also note that AFAICS you don't have MCL_LOCKED for mlockall() so
> there's no full parity anyway. But please don't fix that by adding
> MCL_LOCKED :)
>
> Thanks!
I have an MLOCK_LOCKED flag because I prefer an interface to be
explicit. The caller of mlock2() will be required to fill in the flags
argument regardless. I can drop the MLOCK_LOCKED flag with 0 being the
value for LOCKED, but I thought it easier to make clear what was going
on at any call to mlock2(). If user space defines a MLOCK_LOCKED that
happens to be 0, I suppose that would be okay.
We do actually have an MCL_LOCKED, we just call it MCL_CURRENT. Would
you prefer that I match the name in mlock2() (add MLOCK_CURRENT
instead)?
Finally, on the question of MAP_LOCKONFAULT, do you just dislike
MAP_LOCKED and do not want to see it extended, or is this a NAK on the
set if that patch is included. I ask because I have to spin a V6 to get
the MLOCK flag declarations right, but I would prefer not to do a V7+.
If this is a NAK with, I can drop that patch and rework the tests to
cover without the mmap flag. Otherwise I want to keep it, I have an
internal user that would like to see it added.
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From: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:35:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150727133555.GA17133@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B5F4FF.9070604@suse.cz>
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 07/24/2015 11:28 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >Changes from V4:
> >Drop all architectures for new sys call entries except x86[_64] and MIPS
> >Drop munlock2 and munlockall2
> >Make VM_LOCKONFAULT a modifier to VM_LOCKED only to simplify book keeping
> >Adjust tests to match
>
> Hi, thanks for considering my suggestions. Well, I do hope there
> were correct as API's are hard and I'm no API expert. But since
> API's are also impossible to change after merging, I'm sorry but
> I'll keep pestering for one last thing. Thanks again for persisting,
> I do believe it's for the good thing!
>
> The thing is that I still don't like that one has to call
> mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED) to get the equivalent of the old mlock(). Why
> is that flag needed? We have two modes of locking now, and v5 no
> longer treats them separately in vma flags. But having two flags
> gives us four possible combinations, so two of them would serve
> nothing but to confuse the programmer IMHO. What will mlock2()
> without flags do? What will mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED | MLOCK_ONFAULT) do?
> (Note I haven't studied the code yet, as having agreed on the API
> should come first. But I did suggest documenting these things more
> thoroughly too...)
> OK I checked now and both cases above seem to return EINVAL.
>
> So about the only point I see in MLOCK_LOCKED flag is parity with
> MAP_LOCKED for mmap(). But as Kirill said (and me before as well)
> MAP_LOCKED is broken anyway so we shouldn't twist the rest just of
> the API to keep the poor thing happier in its misery.
>
> Also note that AFAICS you don't have MCL_LOCKED for mlockall() so
> there's no full parity anyway. But please don't fix that by adding
> MCL_LOCKED :)
>
> Thanks!
I have an MLOCK_LOCKED flag because I prefer an interface to be
explicit. The caller of mlock2() will be required to fill in the flags
argument regardless. I can drop the MLOCK_LOCKED flag with 0 being the
value for LOCKED, but I thought it easier to make clear what was going
on at any call to mlock2(). If user space defines a MLOCK_LOCKED that
happens to be 0, I suppose that would be okay.
We do actually have an MCL_LOCKED, we just call it MCL_CURRENT. Would
you prefer that I match the name in mlock2() (add MLOCK_CURRENT
instead)?
Finally, on the question of MAP_LOCKONFAULT, do you just dislike
MAP_LOCKED and do not want to see it extended, or is this a NAK on the
set if that patch is included. I ask because I have to spin a V6 to get
the MLOCK flag declarations right, but I would prefer not to do a V7+.
If this is a NAK with, I can drop that patch and rework the tests to
cover without the mmap flag. Otherwise I want to keep it, I have an
internal user that would like to see it added.
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-24 21:28 [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 1/7] mm: mlock: Refactor mlock, munlock, and munlockall code Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 6:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 6:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 2/7] mm: mlock: Add new mlock system call Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 3/7] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <1437773325-8623-4-git-send-email-emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-27 7:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 7:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 7:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 4/7] mm: mlock: Add mlock flags to enable VM_LOCKONFAULT usage Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 7:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 7:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 7:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 5/7] mm: mmap: Add mmap flag to request VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 7:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 7:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 7:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 13:41 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 13:41 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 14:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 14:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 14:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 14:11 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 14:11 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 6/7] selftests: vm: Add tests for lock on fault Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 7/7] mips: Add entry for new mlock2 syscall Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 9:08 ` [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 9:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 9:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 13:35 ` Eric B Munson [this message]
2015-07-27 13:35 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 14:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 14:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 14:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 14:54 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 14:54 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 15:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 15:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 15:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 11:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-28 11:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-28 11:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-28 11:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 11:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 11:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:49 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-28 13:49 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-28 15:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 15:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 15:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 18:06 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-28 18:06 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-29 10:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 10:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 10:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 10:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 10:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 10:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
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