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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v9 0/8] idle memory tracking
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:12:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150730091212.GA8100@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150729143015.e8420eca17acbd36d1ce9242@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 02:30:15PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:29:08 +0300 Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com> wrote:
> 
> > /proc/kpageidle should probably live somewhere in /sys/kernel/mm, but I
> > added it where similar files are located (kpagecount, kpageflags) to
> > keep things consistent.
> 
> I think these files should be moved elsewhere.  Consistency is good,
> but not when we're being consistent with a bad thing.
> 
> So let's place these in /sys/kernel/mm and then start being consistent
> with that?

I really don't think we should separate kpagecgroup from kpagecount and
kpageflags, because they look very similar (each of them is read-only,
contains an array of u64 values referenced by PFN). Scattering these
files between different filesystems would look ugly IMO.

However, kpageidle is somewhat different (it's read-write, contains a
bitmap) so I think it's worth moving it to /sys/kernel/mm. We have to
move the code from fs/proc to mm/something then to remove dependency
from PROC_FS, which would be unnecessary. Let me give it a try.

Thanks,
Vladimir

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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm v9 0/8] idle memory tracking
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:12:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150730091212.GA8100@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150729143015.e8420eca17acbd36d1ce9242@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 02:30:15PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:29:08 +0300 Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com> wrote:
> 
> > /proc/kpageidle should probably live somewhere in /sys/kernel/mm, but I
> > added it where similar files are located (kpagecount, kpageflags) to
> > keep things consistent.
> 
> I think these files should be moved elsewhere.  Consistency is good,
> but not when we're being consistent with a bad thing.
> 
> So let's place these in /sys/kernel/mm and then start being consistent
> with that?

I really don't think we should separate kpagecgroup from kpagecount and
kpageflags, because they look very similar (each of them is read-only,
contains an array of u64 values referenced by PFN). Scattering these
files between different filesystems would look ugly IMO.

However, kpageidle is somewhat different (it's read-write, contains a
bitmap) so I think it's worth moving it to /sys/kernel/mm. We have to
move the code from fs/proc to mm/something then to remove dependency
from PROC_FS, which would be unnecessary. Let me give it a try.

Thanks,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-19 12:31 [PATCH -mm v9 0/8] idle memory tracking Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 1/8] memcg: add page_cgroup_ino helper Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:34     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:34     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22  9:21     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22  9:21       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22  9:21       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 2/8] hwpoison: use page_cgroup_ino for filtering by memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:34     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20150721163412.1b44e77f5ac3b742734d1ce6-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22  9:45       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22  9:45         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22  9:45         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 3/8] memcg: zap try_get_mem_cgroup_from_page Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 4/8] proc: add kpagecgroup file Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:34     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20150721163433.618855e1f61536a09dfac30b-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 10:33       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 10:33         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 10:33         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 5/8] mmu-notifier: add clear_young callback Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-20 18:34   ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-21  8:51     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21  8:51       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:33       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:33         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 6/8] proc: add kpageidle file Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:34     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20150721163452.c1e4075a2b193bcd325fad56-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 15:20       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 15:20         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 15:20         ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <d7a78b72053cf529c0c9ff6cbc02ffbb3d58fe35.1437303956.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 14:08     ` Paul Gortmaker
2015-07-24 14:08       ` Paul Gortmaker
2015-07-24 14:08       ` Paul Gortmaker
     [not found]       ` <CAP=VYLqiNfQJ6oyQg2GszeHwdOmeY_uD3XPvw=++weJOKdx4_g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 14:17         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-24 14:17           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-24 14:17           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 7/8] proc: export idle flag via kpageflags Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 23:35   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:35     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20150721163500.528bd39bbbc71abc3c8d429b-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-22 16:25       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:25         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:25         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 19:44         ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 19:44           ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 19:44           ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 20:46           ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-23  7:57             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-23  7:57               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-23  7:57               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31 ` [PATCH -mm v9 8/8] proc: add cond_resched to /proc/kpage* read/write loop Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:31   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found] ` <cover.1437303956.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-19 12:37   ` [PATCH -mm v9 0/8] idle memory tracking Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:37     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-19 12:37     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-21 21:39 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-21 23:34 ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-21 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-22 16:23   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:23     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-22 16:23     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-25 16:24     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-25 16:24       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-25 16:24       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-27 19:18   ` Kees Cook
2015-07-27 19:18     ` Kees Cook
2015-07-27 19:25     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-27 19:25       ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-29 12:36 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 12:36   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <20150729123629.GI15801-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29 13:59     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 13:59       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 13:59       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 14:12       ` Michel Lespinasse
     [not found]         ` <CANN689HJX2ZL891uOd8TW9ct4PNH9d5odQZm86WMxkpkCWhA-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29 14:13           ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 14:13             ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 14:13             ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 14:45           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 14:45             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 14:45             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:08             ` Michel Lespinasse
     [not found]               ` <CANN689Euq3Y-CHQo8q88vzFAYZX4S6rK+rZRfbuSKfS74u=gcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29 15:31                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:31                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:31                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:34                   ` Michel Lespinasse
2015-07-29 15:08             ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:08               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]               ` <20150729150855.GM15801-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29 15:36                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:36                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:36                   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:58                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:58                     ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 14:26       ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 14:26         ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:28         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:28           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:47           ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:47             ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 15:47             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20150729154718.GN15801-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29 16:29               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 16:29                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 16:29                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 21:30                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-29 21:30                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-29 21:30                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-30  9:12                   ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2015-07-30  9:12                     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30 13:01                     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30 13:01                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30 13:01                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-31  9:34                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-31  9:34                         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-31  9:34                         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30  9:07                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-30  9:07                   ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-30  9:07                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <20150730090708.GE9387-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30  9:31                     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30  9:31                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-30  9:31                       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 15:55           ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2015-07-29 15:55             ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
     [not found]             ` <CAJu=L59RdowYjTyVM0Vhz79A4d=d8=ZmU7PB59CmEj5B0_c48Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-29 16:37               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 16:37                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-07-29 16:37                 ` Vladimir Davydov

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