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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: Michal Suchanek <hramrach@gmail.com>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	MTD Maling List <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-spi" <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	dmaengine <dmaengine@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/11] MTD: m25p80: Add option to limit SPI transfer size.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:24:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201507301324.05721.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOMqctRPOv3_YZqS-g+SuuMT5UpOJMFs1OtBuZAhLR_SZnfTyw@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 10:43:05 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 27 July 2015 at 19:43, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
> > On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 11:46:25 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >> On 24 July 2015 at 10:34, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 07:03:47 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >> Ok, so here is some summary.
> >> 
> >> I have a NOR flash attached to a s3c64xx SPI controller with 64byte
> >> fifo and a pl330 dma controller.
> >> 
> >> Normally DMA controller is used for transfers that do not fit into the
> >> FIFO.
> >> 
> >> I tried adding the flash memory ID to the spi-nor driver table and
> >> adding a DT node for it.
> >> 
> >> The flash is rated at 120MHz so I used that speed but the ID was
> >> bit-shifted and identification failed. There is DT property
> >> samsung,spi-feedback-delay for addressing this and at 120MHz it must
> >> be 2 or 3 on this board. 40MHz works with default value 0.
> >> 
> >> The next step after identification worked was to try reading the flash
> >> content. For this the DMA controller is used because data is
> >> transferred in blocks larger than 64 bytes. When reading the whole 4MB
> >> flash the transfer failed silently. I got a 4MB file of all ones or
> >> all zeroes.
> >> 
> >> It turns out that
> >> 
> >>  - the pl330 locks up when transfering large amount of data.
> >> 
> >> Specifically, the maximum power of 2 sized transfer at 120MHz is 128
> >> bytes and 64k at 40MHz. Transferring more than this results in the
> >> pl330 locking up and never signalling completion of the transfer.
> > 
> > Hypothesis:
> > I think this might just be that the controller didn't catch all the
> > inbound clock ticks and thus counted less inbound data than it was
> > set up to receive. The controller thus waits for more data.
> 
> The flash chip can transfer data as long as you keep the clock going,
> especially when you transfer 64k off a 4M flash.
> 
> The read command is bound just by stopping the clock. There is always
> more data to be had.

Sure, if you keep clocking the chip, the data will keep going. Is the
chip being clocked ?

Doesn't the PL330 have some kind of a counter register where you can check
how much data were received so far ? That should be sufficient to verify
this hypothesis of mine.

> >> Data
> >> is left in FIFO which causes subsequent commands to fail since garbage
> >> is returned instead of command reply. Also subsequent read may cause
> >> I/O error or or return an empty page depending on the garbage around.
> > 
> > So the driver for the DMA controller might need to be augmented to handle
> > this case -- add a timeout and in case DMA times out, drain the FIFO to
> > make sure subsequent transfers do not fail.
> 
> There is no way to add timeout in the DMA driver since it does not
> know the SPI clock.
> 
> The timeout is handled by the SPI driver and it should be possible to
> augment it to drain the FIFO when DMA fails so long as FIFO level is
> readable somewhere.

If the DMA doesn't complete in certain amount of time, it should time out
I'd say. Don't you think ?

> >> - the I/O errors are not checked in spi-nor at all which leads to
> >> silent data corruption.
> >> 
> >> On a suggestion that this may improve reliability I changed the
> >> s3c64xx driver to use DMA for all transfers. This caused
> >> identification to fail in spin-nor because the ID was prefixed with
> >> extra 00  byte. Testing with spidev confirmed that everything is
> >> prefixed with extra 00.
> > 
> > The determinism of this is in fact excellent news.
> > 
> >> Also when the DMA controller locked up no
> >> transfers were possible anymore. When DMA was not used for sending
> >> commands the controller would recover on next command. I made the
> >> option to always use DMA configurable and it turns out that the
> >> returned data is prefixed with 00 only when no transfer without DMA
> >> was ever made. Loading the spi-nor driver with the dma-only option off
> >> and then with dma-only option on results in correct operation. Only
> >> loading the dma-only driver first causes the 00 prefix.
> > 
> > Can we conclude that the PIO codepath somehow programs a register
> > somewhere which gets rid of this 0x00 prefix ? If so, this should then
> > also be part of the DMA codepath, or even better, this should be set in
> > probe() somewhere.
> 
> Yes, it looks like it.

Did you find what this could be please ?

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From: marex@denx.de (Marek Vasut)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 08/11] MTD: m25p80: Add option to limit SPI transfer size.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:24:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201507301324.05721.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOMqctRPOv3_YZqS-g+SuuMT5UpOJMFs1OtBuZAhLR_SZnfTyw@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 10:43:05 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> On 27 July 2015 at 19:43, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
> > On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 11:46:25 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >> On 24 July 2015 at 10:34, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 07:03:47 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> >> Ok, so here is some summary.
> >> 
> >> I have a NOR flash attached to a s3c64xx SPI controller with 64byte
> >> fifo and a pl330 dma controller.
> >> 
> >> Normally DMA controller is used for transfers that do not fit into the
> >> FIFO.
> >> 
> >> I tried adding the flash memory ID to the spi-nor driver table and
> >> adding a DT node for it.
> >> 
> >> The flash is rated at 120MHz so I used that speed but the ID was
> >> bit-shifted and identification failed. There is DT property
> >> samsung,spi-feedback-delay for addressing this and at 120MHz it must
> >> be 2 or 3 on this board. 40MHz works with default value 0.
> >> 
> >> The next step after identification worked was to try reading the flash
> >> content. For this the DMA controller is used because data is
> >> transferred in blocks larger than 64 bytes. When reading the whole 4MB
> >> flash the transfer failed silently. I got a 4MB file of all ones or
> >> all zeroes.
> >> 
> >> It turns out that
> >> 
> >>  - the pl330 locks up when transfering large amount of data.
> >> 
> >> Specifically, the maximum power of 2 sized transfer at 120MHz is 128
> >> bytes and 64k at 40MHz. Transferring more than this results in the
> >> pl330 locking up and never signalling completion of the transfer.
> > 
> > Hypothesis:
> > I think this might just be that the controller didn't catch all the
> > inbound clock ticks and thus counted less inbound data than it was
> > set up to receive. The controller thus waits for more data.
> 
> The flash chip can transfer data as long as you keep the clock going,
> especially when you transfer 64k off a 4M flash.
> 
> The read command is bound just by stopping the clock. There is always
> more data to be had.

Sure, if you keep clocking the chip, the data will keep going. Is the
chip being clocked ?

Doesn't the PL330 have some kind of a counter register where you can check
how much data were received so far ? That should be sufficient to verify
this hypothesis of mine.

> >> Data
> >> is left in FIFO which causes subsequent commands to fail since garbage
> >> is returned instead of command reply. Also subsequent read may cause
> >> I/O error or or return an empty page depending on the garbage around.
> > 
> > So the driver for the DMA controller might need to be augmented to handle
> > this case -- add a timeout and in case DMA times out, drain the FIFO to
> > make sure subsequent transfers do not fail.
> 
> There is no way to add timeout in the DMA driver since it does not
> know the SPI clock.
> 
> The timeout is handled by the SPI driver and it should be possible to
> augment it to drain the FIFO when DMA fails so long as FIFO level is
> readable somewhere.

If the DMA doesn't complete in certain amount of time, it should time out
I'd say. Don't you think ?

> >> - the I/O errors are not checked in spi-nor at all which leads to
> >> silent data corruption.
> >> 
> >> On a suggestion that this may improve reliability I changed the
> >> s3c64xx driver to use DMA for all transfers. This caused
> >> identification to fail in spin-nor because the ID was prefixed with
> >> extra 00  byte. Testing with spidev confirmed that everything is
> >> prefixed with extra 00.
> > 
> > The determinism of this is in fact excellent news.
> > 
> >> Also when the DMA controller locked up no
> >> transfers were possible anymore. When DMA was not used for sending
> >> commands the controller would recover on next command. I made the
> >> option to always use DMA configurable and it turns out that the
> >> returned data is prefixed with 00 only when no transfer without DMA
> >> was ever made. Loading the spi-nor driver with the dma-only option off
> >> and then with dma-only option on results in correct operation. Only
> >> loading the dma-only driver first causes the 00 prefix.
> > 
> > Can we conclude that the PIO codepath somehow programs a register
> > somewhere which gets rid of this 0x00 prefix ? If so, this should then
> > also be part of the DMA codepath, or even better, this should be set in
> > probe() somewhere.
> 
> Yes, it looks like it.

Did you find what this could be please ?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 242+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-03 21:26 [PATCH 00/11] Enable access to SPI NOR flash on Samsung Snow board Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 01/11] ARM: dt: Add SPI CS " Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  2:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:05     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:05     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]   ` <d47abe28c751b54b839d9340269a2c06a6e23a6c.1433364398.git.hramrach-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  2:05     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:05   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  6:52   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-04  6:52     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-04  6:52     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-04  6:52     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 05/11] mtd: mtdpart: Do not fail mtd probe when parsing partitions fails Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 02/11] mtd: spi-nor: Add GD25LQ32C 1.8V SPI NOR flash ID Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 03/11] mtd: add debug prints to mtdpart partition parser Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 04/11] mtd: ofpart: do not fail probe when no partitions exist Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 22:58   ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 22:58     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 22:58     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 22:58     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04  4:54     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:54       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:54       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:54       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:54       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:28       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:28         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:28         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:28         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:40         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:40           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:40           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:40           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:40           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-05 14:13           ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-05 14:13             ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-05 14:13             ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-05 14:13             ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-23 18:26   ` Brian Norris
2015-06-23 18:26     ` Brian Norris
2015-06-23 18:26     ` Brian Norris
2015-06-23 18:26     ` Brian Norris
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 07/11] mtd: spi-nor: rework write loop Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 09/11] dma: pl330: fix wording in mcbufsz message Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  2:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:10     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:10     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-08 11:07   ` Vinod Koul
2015-06-08 11:07     ` Vinod Koul
2015-06-08 11:07     ` Vinod Koul
2015-06-08 11:07     ` Vinod Koul
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 08/11] MTD: m25p80: Add option to limit SPI transfer size Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 23:03   ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 23:03     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 23:03     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 23:03     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04  4:31     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:15       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:15         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:15         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:15         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04  6:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  6:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  6:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  6:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  8:31     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  8:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  8:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  8:31       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 17:15       ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-04 17:15         ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-04 17:15         ` Richard Cochran
2015-06-04 17:15         ` Richard Cochran
2015-07-15  9:45         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-15  9:45           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-15  9:45           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-15 11:52           ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-15 11:52             ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-15 11:52             ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-15 15:59             ` Brian Norris
2015-07-15 15:59               ` Brian Norris
2015-07-15 15:59               ` Brian Norris
2015-07-15 15:59               ` Brian Norris
2015-07-15 17:15               ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-15 17:15                 ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-15 17:15                 ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-16  1:19                 ` Brian Norris
2015-07-16  1:19                   ` Brian Norris
2015-07-16  1:19                   ` Brian Norris
2015-07-16  1:44                   ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-16  1:44                     ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-16  1:44                     ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-19 19:01               ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-19 19:01                 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-19 19:01                 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-21  4:29                 ` Vinod Koul
2015-07-21  4:29                   ` Vinod Koul
2015-07-21  4:29                   ` Vinod Koul
2015-07-21  8:14                   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-21  8:14                     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-21  8:14                     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  4:49                     ` Vinod Koul
2015-07-22  4:49                       ` Vinod Koul
2015-07-22  4:49                       ` Vinod Koul
2015-07-22  7:30                       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  7:30                         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  7:30                         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  7:33                         ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  7:33                           ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  7:33                           ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  7:45                           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  7:45                             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  7:45                             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  7:58                             ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  7:58                               ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  7:58                               ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  8:18                               ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  8:18                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  8:18                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  8:24                                 ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  8:24                                   ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  8:24                                   ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  8:38                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  8:38                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  8:38                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-22  9:01                                     ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  9:01                                       ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-22  9:01                                       ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-23 16:46                                       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-23 16:46                                         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-23 17:03                                         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-23 17:03                                           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-24  8:34                                           ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-24  8:34                                             ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-24 11:20                                             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-24 11:20                                               ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-27  9:46                                             ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-27  9:46                                               ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-27  9:46                                               ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-27 17:43                                               ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-27 17:43                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-27 20:43                                                 ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-27 20:43                                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-27 20:43                                                   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-30 11:24                                                   ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2015-07-30 11:24                                                     ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-30 12:18                                                     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-30 12:18                                                       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-07-30 12:33                                                       ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-30 12:33                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2015-07-30 12:33                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 06/11] mtd: spi-nor: rework spi nor read and write Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 11/11] dt: Exynos: add Snow SPI NOR node Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  2:04   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:04     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04  2:04     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-04 15:20     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:20       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:20       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:20       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:20       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-17 12:19       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-17 12:19         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-17 12:19         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-17 12:19         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <3234c12c90eabbeeb6d33604a324231937e309ec.1433364398.git.hramrach-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  2:04     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-06-03 21:26 ` [PATCH 10/11] spi: add more debug prints in s3c64xx Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 21:26   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-03 23:04   ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 23:04     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 23:04     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 23:04     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04  9:16   ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:16     ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:16     ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:16     ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:30     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  9:30       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  9:30       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  9:30       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-04  9:42       ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:42         ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:42         ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:42         ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04  9:33     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  9:33       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  9:33       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  9:33       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  9:33       ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 10:26       ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:26         ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:26         ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:26         ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:52         ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 10:52           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 10:52           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 10:52           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 10:52           ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 10:56           ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:56             ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:56             ` Mark Brown
2015-06-04 10:56             ` Mark Brown
2015-06-03 22:53 ` [PATCH 00/11] Enable access to SPI NOR flash on Samsung Snow board Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 22:53   ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 22:53   ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-03 22:53   ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04  4:21   ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:21     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:21     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:21     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04  4:21     ` Michal Suchanek
2015-06-04 15:29     ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:29       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:29       ` Marek Vasut
2015-06-04 15:29       ` Marek Vasut

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