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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk@samsung.com>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	havner@gmail.com,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@skynet.be>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Zefan Li <lizefan@huawei.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] user_ns: 3 new LSM hooks for user namespace operations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:48:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150801034816.GA5541@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438334936.2081.6.camel@samsung.com>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:28:56AM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> On czw, 2015-07-30 at 16:30 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:04:35PM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> > > @@ -969,6 +982,7 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct user_namespace *user_ns = to_user_ns(ns);
> > >  	struct cred *cred;
> > > +	int err;
> > >  
> > >  	/* Don't allow gaining capabilities by reentering
> > >  	 * the same user namespace.
> > > @@ -986,6 +1000,10 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > >  	if (!ns_capable(user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > >  		return -EPERM;
> > >  
> > > +	err = security_userns_setns(nsproxy, user_ns);
> > > +	if (err)
> > > +		return err;
> > 
> > So at this point the LSM thinks current is in the new ns.  If
> > prepare_creds() fails below, should it be informed of that?
> > (Or am I over-thinking this?)
> > 
> > > +
> > >  	cred = prepare_creds();
> > >  	if (!cred)
> > >  		return -ENOMEM;
> 
> Hmm, the use case for this hook I had in mind was just to allow or
> disallow the operation based on the information passed in arguments.
> Not to register the current in any way so LSM can think it is or isn't
> in the new namespace.
> 
> I think that any other LSM check that would like to know in what
> namespace the current is, would just check that from current's creds.
> Not use some stale and duplicated information the above hook could have
> registered.
> 
> I see no reason for this hook to change the LSM state, only to answer
> the question: allowed/disallowed (eventually return an error cause it
> is unable to give an answer which falls into the disallow category).

How about renaming it "security_userns_may_setns()" for clarity?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk@samsung.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@skynet.be>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>, Stephen Smalley <sds@
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] user_ns: 3 new LSM hooks for user namespace operations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:48:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150801034816.GA5541@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438334936.2081.6.camel@samsung.com>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:28:56AM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> On czw, 2015-07-30 at 16:30 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:04:35PM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> > > @@ -969,6 +982,7 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct user_namespace *user_ns = to_user_ns(ns);
> > >  	struct cred *cred;
> > > +	int err;
> > >  
> > >  	/* Don't allow gaining capabilities by reentering
> > >  	 * the same user namespace.
> > > @@ -986,6 +1000,10 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > >  	if (!ns_capable(user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > >  		return -EPERM;
> > >  
> > > +	err = security_userns_setns(nsproxy, user_ns);
> > > +	if (err)
> > > +		return err;
> > 
> > So at this point the LSM thinks current is in the new ns.  If
> > prepare_creds() fails below, should it be informed of that?
> > (Or am I over-thinking this?)
> > 
> > > +
> > >  	cred = prepare_creds();
> > >  	if (!cred)
> > >  		return -ENOMEM;
> 
> Hmm, the use case for this hook I had in mind was just to allow or
> disallow the operation based on the information passed in arguments.
> Not to register the current in any way so LSM can think it is or isn't
> in the new namespace.
> 
> I think that any other LSM check that would like to know in what
> namespace the current is, would just check that from current's creds.
> Not use some stale and duplicated information the above hook could have
> registered.
> 
> I see no reason for this hook to change the LSM state, only to answer
> the question: allowed/disallowed (eventually return an error cause it
> is unable to give an answer which falls into the disallow category).

How about renaming it "security_userns_may_setns()" for clarity?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk@samsung.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@skynet.be>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	havner@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] user_ns: 3 new LSM hooks for user namespace operations
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:48:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150801034816.GA5541@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438334936.2081.6.camel@samsung.com>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:28:56AM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> On czw, 2015-07-30 at 16:30 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:04:35PM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> > > @@ -969,6 +982,7 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct user_namespace *user_ns = to_user_ns(ns);
> > >  	struct cred *cred;
> > > +	int err;
> > >  
> > >  	/* Don't allow gaining capabilities by reentering
> > >  	 * the same user namespace.
> > > @@ -986,6 +1000,10 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > >  	if (!ns_capable(user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > >  		return -EPERM;
> > >  
> > > +	err = security_userns_setns(nsproxy, user_ns);
> > > +	if (err)
> > > +		return err;
> > 
> > So at this point the LSM thinks current is in the new ns.  If
> > prepare_creds() fails below, should it be informed of that?
> > (Or am I over-thinking this?)
> > 
> > > +
> > >  	cred = prepare_creds();
> > >  	if (!cred)
> > >  		return -ENOMEM;
> 
> Hmm, the use case for this hook I had in mind was just to allow or
> disallow the operation based on the information passed in arguments.
> Not to register the current in any way so LSM can think it is or isn't
> in the new namespace.
> 
> I think that any other LSM check that would like to know in what
> namespace the current is, would just check that from current's creds.
> Not use some stale and duplicated information the above hook could have
> registered.
> 
> I see no reason for this hook to change the LSM state, only to answer
> the question: allowed/disallowed (eventually return an error cause it
> is unable to give an answer which falls into the disallow category).

How about renaming it "security_userns_may_setns()" for clarity?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-01  3:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-24 10:04 [PATCH v3 00/11] Smack namespace Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] user_ns: 3 new LSM hooks for user namespace operations Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 21:30   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:30     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:30     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-31  9:28     ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-31  9:28       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-31  9:28       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-08-01  3:48       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2015-08-01  3:48         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-08-01  3:48         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-08-03 11:34         ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-08-03 11:34           ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-08-03 11:34           ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-08-04  1:38           ` Kees Cook
2015-08-04  1:38             ` Kees Cook
2015-08-04  1:38             ` Kees Cook
2015-08-21  5:04             ` Paul Moore
2015-08-21  5:04               ` Paul Moore
2015-08-21 15:56   ` Paul Moore
2015-08-21 15:56     ` Paul Moore
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] lsm: /proc/$PID/attr/label_map file and getprocattr_seq hook Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 21:49   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:49     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:49     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-08-21  5:14   ` Paul Moore
2015-08-21  5:14     ` Paul Moore
2015-08-21  9:30     ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-08-21  9:30       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] lsm: add file opener's cred to a setprocattr arguments Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 21:50   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:50     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:50     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] lsm: inode_pre_setxattr hook Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 21:56   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:56     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 21:56     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-31  9:43     ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-31  9:43       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-31  9:43       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] smack: extend capability functions and fix 2 checks Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 22:10   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 22:10     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 22:10     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] smack: don't use implicit star to display smackfs/syslog Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 22:42   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 22:42     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 22:42     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] smack: abstraction layer for 2 common Smack operations Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] smack: misc cleanups in preparation for a namespace patch Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] smack: namespace groundwork Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] smack: namespace implementation Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] smack: documentation for the Smack namespace Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-24 10:04 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 15:25   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 15:25     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 15:25     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 16:10     ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:10       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:13     ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:13       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:13       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:24       ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:24         ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:24         ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 16:37       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 16:37         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 16:37         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 17:05         ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 17:05           ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-29 17:05           ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-30 19:11           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 19:11             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-30 19:11             ` Serge E. Hallyn

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