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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:26:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150827182654.GA12191@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150827131444.GE27052@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 08/27, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> @@ -2031,6 +2031,9 @@ something up.  The barrier occurs before the task state is cleared, and so sits
>  	    <general barrier>		  STORE current->state
>  	LOAD event_indicated
>
> +Please note that wake_up_process is an exception here because it implies
> +the write memory barrier unconditionally.
> +

I simply can't understand (can't even parse) this part of memory-barriers.txt.

> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -1967,8 +1967,7 @@ static void try_to_wake_up_local(struct task_struct *p)
>   *
>   * Return: 1 if the process was woken up, 0 if it was already running.
>   *
> - * It may be assumed that this function implies a write memory barrier before
> - * changing the task state if and only if any tasks are woken up.
> + * It may be assumed that this function implies a write memory barrier.
>   */

I won't argue, technically this is correct of course. And I agree that
the old comment is misleading.



But the new comment looks as if it is fine to avoid wmb() if you do
wake_up_process(). Say,

	void w(void)
	{
		A = 1;
		wake_up_process(something_unrelated);
		// we know that it implies wmb().
		B = 1;
	}

	void r(void)
	{
		int a, b;

		b = B;
		rmb();
		a = A;

		BUG_ON(b && !a);
	}

Perhaps this part of the comment should be simply removed, the unconditional
wmb() in ttwu() is just implementation detail. And note that initially the
documented behaviour of smp_mb__before_spinlock() was only the STORE - LOAD
serialization. Then people noticed that it actually does wmb() and started
to rely on this fact.

To me, this comment should just explain that this function implies a barrier
but only in a sense that you do not need another one after CONDITION = T and
before wake_up_process().

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-27 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-27 12:27 wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-27 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 18:26     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-08-28 14:51       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 16:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-29  9:25           ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-29 14:27             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31  0:37               ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-31 18:33                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31 20:37                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01  3:40                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01  4:03                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01  9:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-01 14:50                         ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01 16:39                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-02  1:10                             ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-07 17:06                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-08  0:22                                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01  9:41                     ` Oleg Nesterov

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