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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:33:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150831183335.GA26333@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150831003719.GC924@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com>

On 08/31, Boqun Feng wrote:
>
> Fair enough, I went too far. How about just a single paragraph saying
> that:
>
> The wake_up(), wait_event() and their friends have proper barriers in
> them, but these implicity barriers are only for the correctness for
> sleep and wakeup. So don't rely on these barriers for things that are
> neither wait-conditons nor task states.
>
> Is that OK to you?

Ask Paul ;) but personally I agree.

To me, the only thing a user should know about wake_up/try_to_wake_up
and barriers is that you do not need another barrier between setting
condition and waking up.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-31 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-27 12:27 wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-27 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 18:26     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-28 14:51       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 16:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-29  9:25           ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-29 14:27             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31  0:37               ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-31 18:33                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-08-31 20:37                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01  3:40                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01  4:03                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01  9:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-01 14:50                         ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01 16:39                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-02  1:10                             ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-07 17:06                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-08  0:22                                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01  9:41                     ` Oleg Nesterov

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