From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
"Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Maciej Żenczykowski" <maze@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] task_work: remove fifo ordering guarantee
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:51:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150831125139.GC31015@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150831060208.GA7093@gmail.com>
On 08/31, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On 08/29, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > So I'm wondering, is there any strong reason why we couldn't use a double linked
> > > list and still do FIFO and remove that silly linear list walking hack?
> >
> > This will obviously enlarge callback_head, and it is often embedded.
> > But this is minor.
> >
> > If we use a double linked list we can't do task_work_add() lockless.
> > So we will need another spinlock_t in task_struct. We can't use pi_lock.
>
> The fact that the O(N) overhead was measured in real apps to be in the
> milliseconds IMHO weakens cycle-level concerns about also having a spinlock next
> to the list head. (There's no additional cacheline bouncing concerns with the
> spinlock: the head of a LIFO list is essentially a bouncing cacheline.)
I agree. I just tried to explain that we need a bit more changes than
just s/callback_head/list_head/ in task_struct.
And. The fact that this O(N) overhead was measured means that we have
more overhead with offload-fput-to-exit_task_work which would be nice
to remove as well.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-31 12:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-29 2:42 [PATCH] task_work: remove fifo ordering guarantee Eric Dumazet
2015-08-29 3:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-29 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-29 12:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31 6:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-31 12:51 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-08-29 12:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-29 13:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-08-29 14:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-08-29 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-31 5:22 ` yalin wang
2015-09-05 5:19 ` Al Viro
2015-08-31 12:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-05 5:12 ` Al Viro
2015-09-05 5:42 ` Al Viro
2015-09-05 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-31 12:05 ` change filp_close() to use __fput_sync() ? (Was: [PATCH] task_work: remove fifo ordering guarantee) Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-05 5:35 ` [PATCH] task_work: remove fifo ordering guarantee Al Viro
2015-09-07 12:27 ` [PATCH?] fput: don't abuse task_work_add() too much Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-07 13:49 ` [PATCH? v2] " Oleg Nesterov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-29 21:08 [PATCH] task_work: remove fifo ordering guarantee George Spelvin
2015-08-31 13:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31 15:21 ` George Spelvin
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