* upgrade/downgrade race @ 2015-09-09 13:37 Andrew W Elble 2015-09-09 15:58 ` Andrew W Elble 2015-09-09 17:12 ` Trond Myklebust 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-09 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-nfs In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. These all affect the same fh/stateid: 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't have write access. Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. ========== 116 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.163242000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | PUTFH | OPEN DH: 0x8b975243/ | ACCESS FH: 0x8b975243, [Check: RD MD XT XE] | GETATTR FH: 0x8b975243 117 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.163289000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | PUTFH | OPEN_DOWNGRADE | GETATTR FH: 0x8b975243 ... 121 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.163426000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 117) SEQUENCE | PUTFH | OPEN_DOWNGRADE | GETATTR 122 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.163443000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 116) SEQUENCE | PUTFH | OPEN StateID: 0x1f68 | ACCESS, [Allowed: RD MD XT XE] | GETATTR ... 155 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165286000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | TEST_STATEID 156 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165417000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 155) SEQUENCE | TEST_STATEID 157 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165469000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | PUTFH | WRITE StateID: 0x072b Offset: 0 Len: 289 | GETATTR FH: 0x8b975243 158 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165597000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 157) SEQUENCE | PUTFH | WRITE Status: NFS4ERR_OPENMODE 159 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165713000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | TEST_STATEID 160 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165839000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 159) SEQUENCE | TEST_STATEID 161 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.165913000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | PUTFH | WRITE StateID: 0x072b Offset: 0 Len: 289 | GETATTR FH: 0x8b975243 162 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.166040000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 161) SEQUENCE | PUTFH | WRITE Status: NFS4ERR_OPENMODE 163 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.166153000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | TEST_STATEID 164 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.166284000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 163) SEQUENCE | TEST_STATEID 165 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.166335000 EDT V4 Call SEQUENCE | PUTFH | WRITE StateID: 0x072b Offset: 0 Len: 289 | GETATTR FH: 0x8b975243 166 Sep 3, 2015 15:07:04.166463000 EDT V4 Reply (Call In 165) SEQUENCE | PUTFH | WRITE Status: NFS4ERR_OPENMODE Thanks, Andy -- Andrew W. Elble aweits@discipline.rit.edu Infrastructure Engineer, Communications Technical Lead Rochester Institute of Technology PGP: BFAD 8461 4CCF DC95 DA2C B0EB 965B 082E 863E C912 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 13:37 upgrade/downgrade race Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-09 15:58 ` Andrew W Elble 2015-09-09 17:12 ` Trond Myklebust 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-09 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-nfs Or, put into really half-baked (I've only spent an evening looking at nfs client code) terms, isn't something like this required? diff --git a/fs/nfs/nfs4proc.c b/fs/nfs/nfs4proc.c index 11fe5d7..15b8150 100644 --- a/fs/nfs/nfs4proc.c +++ b/fs/nfs/nfs4proc.c @@ -1923,8 +1923,16 @@ static void nfs4_open_done(struct rpc_task *task, void *calldata) renew_lease(data->o_res.server, data->timestamp); if (!(data->o_res.rflags & NFS4_OPEN_RESULT_CONFIRM)) nfs_confirm_seqid(&data->owner->so_seqid, 0); + + if (nfs4_stateid_is_newer(&data->state->open_stateid, &data->o_res.stateid) && + !can_open_cached(data->state, data->o_arg.fmode, data->o_arg.open_flags)) { + rpc_restart_call_prepare(task); + goto out; + } } data->rpc_done = 1; +out: + return; } static void nfs4_open_release(void *calldata) -- Andrew W. Elble aweits@discipline.rit.edu Infrastructure Engineer, Communications Technical Lead Rochester Institute of Technology PGP: BFAD 8461 4CCF DC95 DA2C B0EB 965B 082E 863E C912 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 13:37 upgrade/downgrade race Andrew W Elble 2015-09-09 15:58 ` Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-09 17:12 ` Trond Myklebust 2015-09-09 17:49 ` Trond Myklebust 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew W Elble; +Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > have write access. > > Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. Bruce & Jeff, Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? Cheers Trond ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 17:12 ` Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 17:49 ` Trond Myklebust 2015-09-09 18:49 ` Jeff Layton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew W Elble, Bruce James Fields, Jeffrey Layton; +Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List +Bruce, +Jeff... On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't >> have write access. >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > Bruce & Jeff, > > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > Cheers > Trond ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 17:49 ` Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 18:49 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-09 19:01 ` Trond Myklebust 2015-09-09 19:04 ` Bruce James Fields 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Trond Myklebust Cc: Andrew W Elble, Bruce James Fields, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > +Bruce, +Jeff... > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > >> > >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > >> > >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > >> > >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > >> > >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > >> > >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > >> have write access. > >> > >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > > > Bruce & Jeff, > > > > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order of OPEN processing done by the server." If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing struct files after all. Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. -- Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 18:49 ` Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 19:01 ` Trond Myklebust 2015-09-09 19:18 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-09 19:04 ` Bruce James Fields 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeff Layton; +Cc: Andrew W Elble, Bruce James Fields, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... >> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: >> >> >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. >> >> >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: >> >> >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 >> >> >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) >> >> >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't >> >> have write access. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. >> > >> > Bruce & Jeff, >> > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? >> > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: RFC5661, section 8.2.2 Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct one. In that case, the server is required to return NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an indication that an upgrade had happened. The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero seqid and zero? > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > struct files after all. Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, and for both operations to succeed. Trond ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 19:01 ` Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 19:18 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-09 20:40 ` Bruce James Fields 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Trond Myklebust Cc: Andrew W Elble, Bruce James Fields, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:01:54 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > >> >> > >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > >> >> > >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > >> >> > >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > >> >> > >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > >> >> have write access. > >> >> > >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > >> > > >> > Bruce & Jeff, > >> > > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > >> > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > RFC5661, section 8.2.2 > Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a > stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid > sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it > wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to > be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid > sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero > value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct > one. In that case, the server is required to return > NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value > and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current > value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent > with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in > parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without > knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing > the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN > upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an > indication that an upgrade had happened. > > The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server > not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel > OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero > seqid and zero? > > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > > struct files after all. > > Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have > a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > > > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the > OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and > the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, > and for both operations to succeed. > > Trond In that case, the "simple" fix would be to add a mutex to nfs4_ol_stateid. Lock that in nfs4_preprocess_seqid_op, and ensure that we unlock it after bumping the seqid (or on error). Bruce, any thoughts? -- Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 19:18 ` Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 20:40 ` Bruce James Fields 2015-09-09 21:00 ` Jeff Layton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce James Fields @ 2015-09-09 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeff Layton; +Cc: Trond Myklebust, Andrew W Elble, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 03:18:01PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:01:54 -0400 > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... > > >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > > >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > > >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > > >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > >> >> > > >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > >> >> > > >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > > >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > >> >> > > >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > > >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > >> >> > > >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > > >> >> have write access. > > >> >> > > >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > >> > > > >> > Bruce & Jeff, > > >> > > > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > >> > > > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > > > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > > > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > > > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > > > > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > > > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > > > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > > > RFC5661, section 8.2.2 > > Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a > > stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid > > sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it > > wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to > > be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid > > sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero > > value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct > > one. In that case, the server is required to return > > NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value > > and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current > > value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent > > with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in > > parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without > > knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing > > the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN > > upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an > > indication that an upgrade had happened. > > > > The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server > > not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel > > OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero > > seqid and zero? > > > > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > > > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > > > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > > > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > > > > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > > > > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > > > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > > > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > > > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > > > struct files after all. > > > > Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have > > a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > > > > > > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > > > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > > > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > > > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > > > No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and > > the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, > > and for both operations to succeed. > > > > Trond > > In that case, the "simple" fix would be to add a mutex to > nfs4_ol_stateid. Lock that in nfs4_preprocess_seqid_op, and ensure that > we unlock it after bumping the seqid (or on error). > > Bruce, any thoughts? Why isn't nfsd4_cstate_assign_replay()/nfsd4_cstate_clear_replay() already doing this with the so_replay.rp_mutex lock? Looking at it.... OK, sorry, that's 4.0 only. I don't know if that should be shared in the session case. --b. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 20:40 ` Bruce James Fields @ 2015-09-09 21:00 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-09 21:39 ` Bruce James Fields 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce James Fields Cc: Trond Myklebust, Andrew W Elble, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:40:36 -0400 Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 03:18:01PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:01:54 -0400 > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > > > >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > > > >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > > > >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > > > >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > > >> >> > > > >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > > > >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > > > >> >> have write access. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > > >> > > > > >> > Bruce & Jeff, > > > >> > > > > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > > >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > > >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > > >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > > > > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > > > > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > > > > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > > > > > > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > > > > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > > > > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > > > > > RFC5661, section 8.2.2 > > > Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a > > > stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid > > > sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it > > > wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to > > > be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid > > > sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero > > > value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct > > > one. In that case, the server is required to return > > > NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value > > > and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current > > > value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent > > > with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in > > > parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without > > > knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing > > > the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN > > > upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an > > > indication that an upgrade had happened. > > > > > > The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server > > > not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel > > > OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero > > > seqid and zero? > > > > > > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > > > > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > > > > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > > > > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > > > > > > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > > > > > > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > > > > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > > > > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > > > > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > > > > struct files after all. > > > > > > Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have > > > a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > > > > > > > > > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > > > > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > > > > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > > > > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > > > > > No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and > > > the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, > > > and for both operations to succeed. > > > > > > Trond > > > > In that case, the "simple" fix would be to add a mutex to > > nfs4_ol_stateid. Lock that in nfs4_preprocess_seqid_op, and ensure that > > we unlock it after bumping the seqid (or on error). > > > > Bruce, any thoughts? > > Why isn't nfsd4_cstate_assign_replay()/nfsd4_cstate_clear_replay() > already doing this with the so_replay.rp_mutex lock? > > Looking at it.... OK, sorry, that's 4.0 only. I don't know if that > should be shared in the session case. > Yeah, that's probably a bit heavyweight for v4.1. That mutex is in the stateowner struct. The same stateowner could be opening different files, and we wouldn't want to serialize those. I think we'd need something in the stateid struct itself. Trond also pointed out that we don't really need to serialize OPEN calls, so we might be best off with something like a rw semaphore. Take the read lock in OPEN, and the write lock for OPEN_DOWNGRADE/CLOSE. LOCK/LOCKU will also need similar treatment of course. I'm not sure about LAYOUTGET/LAYOUTRETURN/CLOSE though. -- Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 21:00 ` Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 21:39 ` Bruce James Fields 2015-09-09 22:08 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-12 12:10 ` Jeff Layton 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce James Fields @ 2015-09-09 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeff Layton; +Cc: Trond Myklebust, Andrew W Elble, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 05:00:37PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:40:36 -0400 > Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 03:18:01PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:01:54 -0400 > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > > > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > > > > >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > > > > >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > > > > >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > > > > >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > > > > >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > > > > >> >> have write access. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Bruce & Jeff, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > > > >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > > > >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > > > >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > > > > > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > > > > > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > > > > > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > > > > > > > > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > > > > > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > > > > > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > > > > > > > RFC5661, section 8.2.2 > > > > Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a > > > > stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid > > > > sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it > > > > wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to > > > > be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid > > > > sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero > > > > value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct > > > > one. In that case, the server is required to return > > > > NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value > > > > and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current > > > > value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent > > > > with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in > > > > parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without > > > > knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing > > > > the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN > > > > upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an > > > > indication that an upgrade had happened. > > > > > > > > The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server > > > > not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel > > > > OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero > > > > seqid and zero? > > > > > > > > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > > > > > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > > > > > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > > > > > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > > > > > > > > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > > > > > > > > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > > > > > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > > > > > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > > > > > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > > > > > struct files after all. > > > > > > > > Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have > > > > a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > > > > > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > > > > > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > > > > > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > > > > > > > No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and > > > > the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, > > > > and for both operations to succeed. > > > > > > > > Trond > > > > > > In that case, the "simple" fix would be to add a mutex to > > > nfs4_ol_stateid. Lock that in nfs4_preprocess_seqid_op, and ensure that > > > we unlock it after bumping the seqid (or on error). > > > > > > Bruce, any thoughts? > > > > Why isn't nfsd4_cstate_assign_replay()/nfsd4_cstate_clear_replay() > > already doing this with the so_replay.rp_mutex lock? > > > > Looking at it.... OK, sorry, that's 4.0 only. I don't know if that > > should be shared in the session case. > > > > Yeah, that's probably a bit heavyweight for v4.1. That mutex is in the > stateowner struct. The same stateowner could be opening different > files, and we wouldn't want to serialize those. I think we'd need > something in the stateid struct itself. > > Trond also pointed out that we don't really need to serialize OPEN > calls, so we might be best off with something like a rw semaphore. Take > the read lock in OPEN, and the write lock for OPEN_DOWNGRADE/CLOSE. > LOCK/LOCKU will also need similar treatment of course. OK, I think I agree. LOCK and LOCKU both need exclusive locks, right? > I'm not sure about LAYOUTGET/LAYOUTRETURN/CLOSE though. Me neither. --b. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 21:39 ` Bruce James Fields @ 2015-09-09 22:08 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-12 12:10 ` Jeff Layton 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-09 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce James Fields Cc: Trond Myklebust, Andrew W Elble, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:39:07 -0400 Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 05:00:37PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:40:36 -0400 > > Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 03:18:01PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:01:54 -0400 > > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > > > > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > > > > > >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > > > > > >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > > > > > >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > > > > > >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > > > > > >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > > > > > >> >> have write access. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Bruce & Jeff, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > > > > >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > > > > >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > > > > >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > > > > > > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > > > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > > > > > > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > > > > > > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > > > > > > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > > > > > > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > > > > > > > > > RFC5661, section 8.2.2 > > > > > Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a > > > > > stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid > > > > > sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it > > > > > wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to > > > > > be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid > > > > > sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero > > > > > value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct > > > > > one. In that case, the server is required to return > > > > > NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value > > > > > and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current > > > > > value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent > > > > > with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in > > > > > parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without > > > > > knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing > > > > > the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN > > > > > upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an > > > > > indication that an upgrade had happened. > > > > > > > > > > The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server > > > > > not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel > > > > > OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero > > > > > seqid and zero? > > > > > > > > > > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > > > > > > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > > > > > > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > > > > > > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > > > > > > > > > > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > > > > > > > > > > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > > > > > > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > > > > > > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > > > > > > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > > > > > > struct files after all. > > > > > > > > > > Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have > > > > > a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > > > > > > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > > > > > > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > > > > > > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > > > > > > > > > No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the > > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and > > > > > the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, > > > > > and for both operations to succeed. > > > > > > > > > > Trond > > > > > > > > In that case, the "simple" fix would be to add a mutex to > > > > nfs4_ol_stateid. Lock that in nfs4_preprocess_seqid_op, and ensure that > > > > we unlock it after bumping the seqid (or on error). > > > > > > > > Bruce, any thoughts? > > > > > > Why isn't nfsd4_cstate_assign_replay()/nfsd4_cstate_clear_replay() > > > already doing this with the so_replay.rp_mutex lock? > > > > > > Looking at it.... OK, sorry, that's 4.0 only. I don't know if that > > > should be shared in the session case. > > > > > > > Yeah, that's probably a bit heavyweight for v4.1. That mutex is in the > > stateowner struct. The same stateowner could be opening different > > files, and we wouldn't want to serialize those. I think we'd need > > something in the stateid struct itself. > > > > Trond also pointed out that we don't really need to serialize OPEN > > calls, so we might be best off with something like a rw semaphore. Take > > the read lock in OPEN, and the write lock for OPEN_DOWNGRADE/CLOSE. > > LOCK/LOCKU will also need similar treatment of course. > > OK, I think I agree. LOCK and LOCKU both need exclusive locks, right? > Right. Those can't really run in parallel. > > I'm not sure about LAYOUTGET/LAYOUTRETURN/CLOSE though. > > Me neither. > Then we should probably start with the cases we do know, and then extend the locking to those if it's required. I'll look at it when I get time but it may be a bit... -- Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 21:39 ` Bruce James Fields 2015-09-09 22:08 ` Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-12 12:10 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-12 12:27 ` Andrew W Elble 2015-09-15 11:49 ` Andrew W Elble 1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-12 12:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bruce James Fields Cc: Trond Myklebust, Andrew W Elble, Linux NFS Mailing List [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 7568 bytes --] On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:39:07 -0400 Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 05:00:37PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:40:36 -0400 > > Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 03:18:01PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:01:54 -0400 > > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > > > > > > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> +Bruce, +Jeff... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > > > > > >> <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > > > > > >> >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > > > > > >> >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > > > > > >> >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > > > > > >> >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > > > > > >> >> have write access. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Bruce & Jeff, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > > > > >> > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > > > > >> > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > > > > >> > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > > > > > > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > > > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > > > > > > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > > > > > > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > > > > > > > > > > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > > > > > > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > > > > > > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > > > > > > > > > RFC5661, section 8.2.2 > > > > > Except for layout stateids (Section 12.5.3), when a client sends a > > > > > stateid to the server, it has two choices with regard to the seqid > > > > > sent. It may set the seqid to zero to indicate to the server that it > > > > > wishes the most up-to-date seqid for that stateid's "other" field to > > > > > be used. This would be the common choice in the case of a stateid > > > > > sent with a READ or WRITE operation. It also may set a non-zero > > > > > value, in which case the server checks if that seqid is the correct > > > > > one. In that case, the server is required to return > > > > > NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID if the seqid is lower than the most current value > > > > > and NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID if the seqid is greater than the most current > > > > > value. This would be the common choice in the case of stateids sent > > > > > with a CLOSE or OPEN_DOWNGRADE. Because OPENs may be sent in > > > > > parallel for the same owner, a client might close a file without > > > > > knowing that an OPEN upgrade had been done by the server, changing > > > > > the lock in question. If CLOSE were sent with a zero seqid, the OPEN > > > > > upgrade would be cancelled before the client even received an > > > > > indication that an upgrade had happened. > > > > > > > > > > The suggestion there is clearly that the client can rely on the server > > > > > not reordering those CLOSE/OPEN_DOWNGRADE operations w.r.t. a parallel > > > > > OPEN. Otherwise, what is the difference between sending a non-zero > > > > > seqid and zero? > > > > > > > > > > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > > > > > > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > > > > > > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > > > > > > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > > > > > > > > > > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > > > > > > > > > > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), or make > > > > > > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > > > > > > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > > > > > > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > > > > > > struct files after all. > > > > > > > > > > Updates to the state are already required to be atomic. You can't have > > > > > a stateid where an OPEN_DOWNGRADE or CLOSE only partially succeeded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > > > > > > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > > > > > > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > > > > > > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > > > > > > > > > No. The client is relying on the server not reordering the > > > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE. It expects either for the OPEN to happen first, and > > > > > the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to fail, or for the OPEN_DOWNGRADE to happen first, > > > > > and for both operations to succeed. > > > > > > > > > > Trond > > > > > > > > In that case, the "simple" fix would be to add a mutex to > > > > nfs4_ol_stateid. Lock that in nfs4_preprocess_seqid_op, and ensure that > > > > we unlock it after bumping the seqid (or on error). > > > > > > > > Bruce, any thoughts? > > > > > > Why isn't nfsd4_cstate_assign_replay()/nfsd4_cstate_clear_replay() > > > already doing this with the so_replay.rp_mutex lock? > > > > > > Looking at it.... OK, sorry, that's 4.0 only. I don't know if that > > > should be shared in the session case. > > > > > > > Yeah, that's probably a bit heavyweight for v4.1. That mutex is in the > > stateowner struct. The same stateowner could be opening different > > files, and we wouldn't want to serialize those. I think we'd need > > something in the stateid struct itself. > > > > Trond also pointed out that we don't really need to serialize OPEN > > calls, so we might be best off with something like a rw semaphore. Take > > the read lock in OPEN, and the write lock for OPEN_DOWNGRADE/CLOSE. > > LOCK/LOCKU will also need similar treatment of course. > > OK, I think I agree. LOCK and LOCKU both need exclusive locks, right? > > > I'm not sure about LAYOUTGET/LAYOUTRETURN/CLOSE though. > > Me neither. > > --b. Andrew, could you test this patch out? This just covers open and lock stateids. If it works, I'll clean up the comments and resend it to the list as a PATCH email. Assuming that it does, we'll need to consider what (if anything) to do about layout stateids... -- Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #2: 0001-nfsd-serialize-state-seqid-morphing-operations.patch --] [-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 0 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-12 12:10 ` Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-12 12:27 ` Andrew W Elble 2015-09-15 11:49 ` Andrew W Elble 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-12 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeff Layton; +Cc: Bruce James Fields, Trond Myklebust, Linux NFS Mailing List > Andrew, could you test this patch out? This just covers open and lock > stateids. If it works, I'll clean up the comments and resend it to the > list as a PATCH email. Will do, thank you! > Assuming that it does, we'll need to consider what (if anything) to do > about layout stateids... -- Andrew W. Elble aweits@discipline.rit.edu Infrastructure Engineer, Communications Technical Lead Rochester Institute of Technology PGP: BFAD 8461 4CCF DC95 DA2C B0EB 965B 082E 863E C912 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-12 12:10 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-12 12:27 ` Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-15 11:49 ` Andrew W Elble 2015-09-15 11:59 ` Jeff Layton 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-15 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeff Layton; +Cc: Bruce James Fields, Trond Myklebust, Linux NFS Mailing List > Andrew, could you test this patch out? This just covers open and lock > stateids. If it works, I'll clean up the comments and resend it to the > list as a PATCH email. > > Assuming that it does, we'll need to consider what (if anything) to do > about layout stateids... Jeff, We've run with no issues overnight. I'll let you know if we see anything weird in the next few days (It generally takes a few days at this point to trigger anything out-of-the-ordinary) Thanks, Andy -- Andrew W. Elble aweits@discipline.rit.edu Infrastructure Engineer, Communications Technical Lead Rochester Institute of Technology PGP: BFAD 8461 4CCF DC95 DA2C B0EB 965B 082E 863E C912 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-15 11:49 ` Andrew W Elble @ 2015-09-15 11:59 ` Jeff Layton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Jeff Layton @ 2015-09-15 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew W Elble Cc: Bruce James Fields, Trond Myklebust, Linux NFS Mailing List On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 07:49:33 -0400 Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > > Andrew, could you test this patch out? This just covers open and lock > > stateids. If it works, I'll clean up the comments and resend it to the > > list as a PATCH email. > > > > Assuming that it does, we'll need to consider what (if anything) to do > > about layout stateids... > > Jeff, > > We've run with no issues overnight. I'll let you know if we see > anything weird in the next few days (It generally takes a few days at > this point to trigger anything out-of-the-ordinary) > > > Thanks, > > Andy > Great. Thanks for helping test it! -- Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: upgrade/downgrade race 2015-09-09 18:49 ` Jeff Layton 2015-09-09 19:01 ` Trond Myklebust @ 2015-09-09 19:04 ` Bruce James Fields 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Bruce James Fields @ 2015-09-09 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jeff Layton; +Cc: Trond Myklebust, Andrew W Elble, Linux NFS Mailing List On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 02:49:35PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 13:49:44 -0400 > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > +Bruce, +Jeff... > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Trond Myklebust > > <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote: > > >> > > >> In attempting to troubleshoot other issues, we've run into this race > > >> with 4.1.4 (both client and server) with a few cherry-picked patches > > >> from upstream. This is my attempt at a redacted packet-capture. > > >> > > >> These all affect the same fh/stateid: > > >> > > >> 116 -> OPEN (will be an upgrade / for write) > > >> 117 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (to read for the existing stateid / seqid = 0x6 > > >> > > >> 121 -> OPEN_DOWNGRADE (completed last / seqid = 0x8) > > >> 122 -> OPEN (completed first / seqid = 0x7) > > >> > > >> Attempts to write using that stateid fail because the stateid doesn't > > >> have write access. > > >> > > >> Any thoughts? I can share more data from the capture if needed. > > > > > > Bruce & Jeff, > > > > > > Given that the client sent a non-zero seqid, why is the OPEN_DOWNGRADE > > > being executed after the OPEN here? Surely, if that is the case, the > > > server should be returning NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID and failing the > > > OPEN_DOWNGRADE operation? > > > > > The problem there is that we do the seqid checks at the beginning of > the operation. In this case it's likely that it was 0x6 when the > OPEN_DOWNGRADE started. The OPEN completed first though and bumped the > seqid, and then the downgrade finished and bumped it again. When we bump > the seqid we don't verify it against what came in originally. > > The question is whether that's wrong from the POV of the spec. RFC5661 > doesn't seem to explicitly require that we serialize such operations on > the server. The closest thing I can find is this in 3.3.12: > > "The server is required to increment the "seqid" field by > one at each transition of the stateid. This is important since the > client will inspect the seqid in OPEN stateids to determine the order > of OPEN processing done by the server." > > If we do need to fix this on the server, it's likely to be pretty ugly: > > We'd either need to serialize seqid morphing operations (ugh), I thought that was required. --b. > or make > update_stateid do an cmpxchg to swap it into place (or add some extra > locking around it), and then have some way to unwind all of the changes > if that fails. That may be impossible however -- we're likely closing > struct files after all. > > Now, all of that said, I think the client has some bugs in its seqid > handling as well. It should have realized that the stateid was a r/o > one after the OPEN_DOWNGRADE came back with the higher seqid, but it > still issued a WRITE just afterward. That seems wrong. > > -- > Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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