From: Simon Guinot <simon.guinot@sequanux.org>
To: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
Cc: Bryan Wu <cooloney@gmail.com>, Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@gmail.com>,
Yoann Sculo <yoann@printk.fr>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/5] leds: netxbig: set led_classdev max_brightness
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:25:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150928132533.GA7306@kw.sim.vm.gnt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56093188.4050405@samsung.com>
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 02:24:40PM +0200, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> On 09/28/2015 01:50 PM, Simon Guinot wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:15:22PM +0200, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> >>On 09/28/2015 11:19 AM, Simon Guinot wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:02:35AM +0200, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> >>>>Hi Simon,
> >>>
> >>>Hi Jacek,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Does your device support reading the brightness currently set?
> >>>
> >>>No it don't.
> >>>
> >>>>If so, it would be good to implement brightness_get op, because
> >>>>AFAIR you mentioned that the firmware you are working with sets
> >>>>always maximum brightness value. Having the op implemented would
> >>>>allow to find this out.
> >>>
> >>>I don't understand how this can help. I mean, the only issue is that at
> >>>startup the initial LED state is unknown. And the software brightness
> >>>value could be false. But once the LED is configured, the brightness
> >>>values for software and hardware are synchronized. The brightness value
> >>>is stored/cached in led_classdev and it can be retrieved by the user via
> >>>sysfs...
> >>>
> >>>For my own knowledge, is there some interest in having brightness_get(),
> >>>aside of guessing the LED initial state ?
> >>
> >>Some LED controllers can adjust brightness in case battery voltage level
> >>falls below some threshold.
> >
> >OK, thanks for the explanation.
> >
> >>
> >>>What does the embedded firmware is writing 255 or 0 into the brightness
> >>>sysfs attribute. The max_brightness value is ignored. After this patch,
> >>>writing 255 and 0 still allows to configure the LED in the same way:
> >>>maximum brightness or off. Thus, I believe there is no compatibility
> >>>issue.
> >>
> >>LED core always assures that brightness value passed to brightness_set
> >>op does not exceed max_brightness value. So, now after executing
> >>"echo 255 > brightness", LED core will adjust it to max_brightness
> >>(e.g. 7) before passing to brightness_set.
> >>
> >>In the message [1], you mentioned that "LEDs are only enabled at their
> >>maximum level", so IIUC following is possible:
> >>
> >>#echo 3 > "brightness"
> >>
> >>firmware sets brightness to max_brightness from DT (e.g. 7), but
> >>
> >>#cat brightness
> >>#3
> >>
> >>Is it true?
> >
> >Oh no sorry, it is a misunderstanding. By "LEDs are only enabled at
> >their maximum level", I was meaning "LEDs are only enabled at their
> >maximum level by the LaCie stock firmware". The firmware don't make
> >use of the different hardware brightness levels available. But the
> >feature works perfectly. If you write 3 into sysfs "brightness", then
> >you get the third brightness level.
>
> I thought that driver talks to firmware, which controls the LEDs.
> From your explanation I infer that this driver replaces LaCie stock
> firmware, am I right? There must be however some circuit that controls
> LED brightness then.
OK, I think I may have managed to confuse you completely.
The LEDs are controlled by a CPLD. The leds-netxbig driver talks to the
CPLD via the gpio-ext "kind of" bus:
leds-netxbig -> gpio-ext bus -> CPLD -> LEDs
"LaCie stock firmware" don't refer to the firmware embedded in the CPLD
but to the stock LaCie Linux system running *on* the board.
"LEDs are only enabled at their maximum level by the LaCie stock
firmware" means: "In the Linux LaCie system running on the board,
userland only configures the LED brightness to 0 or 255".
It don't mean that the CPLD does some weird stuff implying that the
feature is somewhat broken. No, the feature works. Simply userland
(in the stock LaCie system aka firmware) don't use it.
Remember that your original question was:
"Doesn't specification of your device say what current value given
brightness level reflects?"
Let me rephrase my answer without using "LaCie stock firmware":
No this information is not available in the board specification. It is
probably because this feature is not used by the LaCie Linux userland.
The LED brightness is configured to off or full. Other levels are not
used. That's probably why no one took care of measuring the LED current
consumption.
Let me know if it is still unclear for you.
Simon
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From: simon.guinot@sequanux.org (Simon Guinot)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v6 5/5] leds: netxbig: set led_classdev max_brightness
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:25:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150928132533.GA7306@kw.sim.vm.gnt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56093188.4050405@samsung.com>
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 02:24:40PM +0200, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> On 09/28/2015 01:50 PM, Simon Guinot wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:15:22PM +0200, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> >>On 09/28/2015 11:19 AM, Simon Guinot wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:02:35AM +0200, Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
> >>>>Hi Simon,
> >>>
> >>>Hi Jacek,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Does your device support reading the brightness currently set?
> >>>
> >>>No it don't.
> >>>
> >>>>If so, it would be good to implement brightness_get op, because
> >>>>AFAIR you mentioned that the firmware you are working with sets
> >>>>always maximum brightness value. Having the op implemented would
> >>>>allow to find this out.
> >>>
> >>>I don't understand how this can help. I mean, the only issue is that at
> >>>startup the initial LED state is unknown. And the software brightness
> >>>value could be false. But once the LED is configured, the brightness
> >>>values for software and hardware are synchronized. The brightness value
> >>>is stored/cached in led_classdev and it can be retrieved by the user via
> >>>sysfs...
> >>>
> >>>For my own knowledge, is there some interest in having brightness_get(),
> >>>aside of guessing the LED initial state ?
> >>
> >>Some LED controllers can adjust brightness in case battery voltage level
> >>falls below some threshold.
> >
> >OK, thanks for the explanation.
> >
> >>
> >>>What does the embedded firmware is writing 255 or 0 into the brightness
> >>>sysfs attribute. The max_brightness value is ignored. After this patch,
> >>>writing 255 and 0 still allows to configure the LED in the same way:
> >>>maximum brightness or off. Thus, I believe there is no compatibility
> >>>issue.
> >>
> >>LED core always assures that brightness value passed to brightness_set
> >>op does not exceed max_brightness value. So, now after executing
> >>"echo 255 > brightness", LED core will adjust it to max_brightness
> >>(e.g. 7) before passing to brightness_set.
> >>
> >>In the message [1], you mentioned that "LEDs are only enabled at their
> >>maximum level", so IIUC following is possible:
> >>
> >>#echo 3 > "brightness"
> >>
> >>firmware sets brightness to max_brightness from DT (e.g. 7), but
> >>
> >>#cat brightness
> >>#3
> >>
> >>Is it true?
> >
> >Oh no sorry, it is a misunderstanding. By "LEDs are only enabled at
> >their maximum level", I was meaning "LEDs are only enabled at their
> >maximum level by the LaCie stock firmware". The firmware don't make
> >use of the different hardware brightness levels available. But the
> >feature works perfectly. If you write 3 into sysfs "brightness", then
> >you get the third brightness level.
>
> I thought that driver talks to firmware, which controls the LEDs.
> From your explanation I infer that this driver replaces LaCie stock
> firmware, am I right? There must be however some circuit that controls
> LED brightness then.
OK, I think I may have managed to confuse you completely.
The LEDs are controlled by a CPLD. The leds-netxbig driver talks to the
CPLD via the gpio-ext "kind of" bus:
leds-netxbig -> gpio-ext bus -> CPLD -> LEDs
"LaCie stock firmware" don't refer to the firmware embedded in the CPLD
but to the stock LaCie Linux system running *on* the board.
"LEDs are only enabled at their maximum level by the LaCie stock
firmware" means: "In the Linux LaCie system running on the board,
userland only configures the LED brightness to 0 or 255".
It don't mean that the CPLD does some weird stuff implying that the
feature is somewhat broken. No, the feature works. Simply userland
(in the stock LaCie system aka firmware) don't use it.
Remember that your original question was:
"Doesn't specification of your device say what current value given
brightness level reflects?"
Let me rephrase my answer without using "LaCie stock firmware":
No this information is not available in the board specification. It is
probably because this feature is not used by the LaCie Linux userland.
The LED brightness is configured to off or full. Other levels are not
used. That's probably why no one took care of measuring the LED current
consumption.
Let me know if it is still unclear for you.
Simon
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-26 21:02 [PATCH v6 0/5] Add DT support for netxbig LEDs Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] leds: netxbig: add device tree binding Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] ARM: Kirkwood: add LED DT entries for netxbig boards Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] ARM: mvebu: remove static LED setup " Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] leds: netxbig: convert to use the devm_ functions Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` Simon Guinot
[not found] ` <1443301358-2131-1-git-send-email-simon.guinot-jKBdWWKqtFpg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-26 21:02 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] leds: netxbig: set led_classdev max_brightness Simon Guinot
2015-09-26 21:02 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-28 8:02 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-09-28 8:02 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-09-28 9:19 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-28 9:19 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-28 10:15 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-09-28 10:15 ` Jacek Anaszewski
[not found] ` <5609133A.3050802-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-28 11:50 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-28 11:50 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-28 12:24 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-09-28 12:24 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-09-28 13:25 ` Simon Guinot [this message]
2015-09-28 13:25 ` Simon Guinot
2015-09-28 13:43 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-09-28 13:43 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-10-09 9:43 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Add DT support for netxbig LEDs Jacek Anaszewski
2015-10-09 9:43 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-10-15 7:16 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-10-15 7:16 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-10-15 8:11 ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-10-15 8:11 ` Jacek Anaszewski
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