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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Vladislav Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hjk@hansjkoch.de,
	avi@cloudius-systems.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	alexander.duyck@gmail.com, gleb@cloudius-systems.com,
	stephen@networkplumber.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 01:29:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151006005527-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOYyTHZ2=UCYxuJKvd5S6qxp=84DBq5bMadg5wL0rFLZBh2-8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 12:43:45AM +0300, Vladislav Zolotarov wrote:
> So, like it has already been asked in a different thread I'm going to
> ask a rhetorical question: what adding an MSI and MSI-X interrupts support to
> uio_pci_generic has to do with security?

memory protection is a better term than security.

It's very simple: you enable bus mastering and you ask userspace to map
all device BARs. One of these BARs holds the address to which device
writes to trigger MSI-X interrupt.

This is how MSI-X works, internally: from the point of view of
PCI it's a memory write. It just so happens that the destination
address is in the interrupt controller, that triggers an interrupt.

But a bug in this userspace application can corrupt the MSI-X table,
which in turn can easily corrupt kernel memory, or unrelated processes's
memory.  This is in my opinion unacceptable.

So you need to be very careful
- probably need to reset device before you even enable bus master
- prevent userspace from touching msi config
- prevent userspace from moving BARs since msi-x config is within a BAR
- detect reset and prevent linux from touching device while it's under
  reset

The list goes on and on.

This is pretty much what VFIO spent the last 3 years doing, except VFIO
also can do IOMMU groups.

> What "security threat" does it add
> that u don't already have today?

Yes, userspace can create this today if it tweaks PCI config space to
enable MSI-X, then corrupts the MSI-X table.  It's unfortunate that we
don't yet prevent this, but at least you need two things to go wrong for
this to trigger.

The reason, as I tried to point out, is simply that I didn't think
uio_pci_generic will be used for these configurations.
But there's nothing fundamental here that makes them secure
and that therefore makes your patches secure as well.

Fixing this to make uio_pci_generic write-protect MSI/MSI-X enable
registers sounds kind of reasonable, this shouldn't be too hard.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-05 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-04 20:43 [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic driver Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-04 20:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05  3:03   ` Greg KH
2015-10-05  7:33     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05  8:01       ` Greg KH
2015-10-05 10:36         ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 20:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <CAOYyTHZ2=UCYxuJKvd5S6qxp=84DBq5bMadg5wL0rFLZBh2-8Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-05 22:29               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-10-06  8:33                 ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 14:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 14:30                     ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-06 15:19                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 15:31                         ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 15:57                         ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-04 20:43 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] uio_pci_generic: add MSI/MSI-X support Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05  3:11   ` Greg KH
2015-10-05  7:41     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05  7:56       ` Greg KH
2015-10-05 10:48         ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 10:57           ` Greg KH
2015-10-05 11:09             ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-05 13:08               ` Greg KH
2015-10-05 11:41             ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 11:47               ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-05 11:53                 ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05  8:28     ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-05  9:49       ` Greg KH
2015-10-05 10:20         ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-06 14:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 14:43             ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 14:56               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 15:23                 ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-06 18:51                   ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-06 21:32                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-10-06 21:41                       ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                         ` <CAOaVG152OrQz-Bbnpr0VeE+vLH7nMGsG6A3sD7eTQHormNGVUg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-07  7:57                           ` Vlad Zolotarov
     [not found]                           ` <5614C160.6000203@scylladb.com>
2015-10-07  8:00                             ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-07  8:01                               ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-07  6:52                     ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-07 16:31                       ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-07 16:39                         ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-07 21:05                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  4:19                             ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08  7:41                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  7:59                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08  9:38                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  9:45                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08 12:15                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  5:33                             ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-08  7:32                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  8:46                                 ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-08  9:16                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  9:44                                     ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-08 12:06                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08 12:27                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08 13:20                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08 13:28                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08 16:43                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08 17:01                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08 17:39                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08 17:53                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08 18:38                                                     ` Greg KH
2015-10-08  8:32                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08  8:52                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-08  9:19                                 ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-08 10:26                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08 13:20                                     ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-08 14:17                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-08 15:31                                       ` Alex Williamson
2015-10-07 20:05                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-07  7:55                     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-08  8:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 15:28                 ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 14:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 15:27         ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-05  8:41   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-10-05  9:08     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 10:06       ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 20:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-05  9:11     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 19:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-04 20:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Documentation: update uio-howto Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-04 20:45 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] uio: add MSI/MSI-X support to uio_pci_generic driver Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-05 19:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06  8:37   ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 14:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 14:40       ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 15:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 16:35           ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-06 15:11       ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-06 15:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-06 16:00           ` Gleb Natapov
2015-10-06 16:09           ` Avi Kivity
2015-10-07 10:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-10-07 10:28               ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-10-04 20:39 Vlad Zolotarov
2015-10-04 20:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] uio: add ioctl support Vlad Zolotarov

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