From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
P??draig Brady <P@draigBrady.com>,
Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
zab@zabbo.net, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
andros@netapp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 9/9] btrfs: btrfs_copy_file_range() only supports reflinks
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:44:35 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151016214435.GA2786@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151016131950.GC6874@ret.masoncoding.com>
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 09:19:50AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 05:25:44AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 07:49:19AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > > > Yes, that would be my preference. I'd also like to understand what
> > > > exactly btrfs does in fallocate.
> > >
> > > For which part? The answer changes based on how many references there
> > > are to a given fallocated region.
> >
> > Both cases. With btrfs allocating new block on every write how do you
> > avoid that ENOSPC? Is there a unassigned block preallocation that's
> > made persistent in some way?
>
> So:
>
> fallocate 1g -> foo
>
> reflink foo foo2
>
> We've now implicitly doubled the size of the fallocate, but at reflink
No, I don't think it implies that at all. the posix_fallocate()
"future writes will succeed" guarantee only applies to foo, not to
/copies/ such as foo2. At it's core, reflink is just an optimised
file copy mechanism - the resultant copy should have the same
behaviour as a file copied by read/write. Copies done by physically
copying data do not duplicate fallocate() regions or guarantees from
the source file to the destination file.
> time btrfs doesn't account for the doubling. It's actually much
> better in this case to just use a hole because neither foo or foo2 can
> use the preallocated space until the 1g is fully unshared.
Right - this implies unwritten extents should not be shared by
reflink, instead either skipped (i.e. leave as a hole in foo2 as you
suggest) or duplicated so that the next write to the region of foo2
will also succeed. I'd suggest that COPY_FALLOC (or whatever it'll
get called) implies the latter behaviour, the default behaviour
being the former...
> When we're doing writes, it'll check the preallocated extents for extra
> refs and force COW if any exist. So writes into a preallocated region
> can enospc.
This really seems like an btrfs interpretation/implementation
issue, not a problem for reflink in general.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
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2015-09-30 17:26 [PATCH v5 0/9] VFS: In-kernel copy system call Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] vfs: add copy_file_range syscall and vfs helper Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] x86: add sys_copy_file_range to syscall tables Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] btrfs: add .copy_file_range file operation Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] vfs: Copy shouldn't forbid ranges inside the same file Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-11 14:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151011142233.GC31867-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 17:37 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 17:37 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 17:37 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 18:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151014182523.GA31225-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:27 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 18:27 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 18:27 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] vfs: Copy should use file_out rather than file_in Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-11 14:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] vfs: Remove copy_file_range mountpoint checks Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-11 14:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 17:41 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 17:41 ` Anna Schumaker
[not found] ` <561E93C3.2090507-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 18:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] btrfs: btrfs_copy_file_range() only supports reflinks Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
[not found] ` <1443634014-3026-10-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-11 14:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-11 14:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151011142939.GA30905-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-12 10:23 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-12 10:23 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-12 14:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151012143444.GA10156-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-12 23:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-12 23:41 ` Darrick J. Wong
[not found] ` <20151012234106.GD11398-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 7:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-13 7:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151013072959.GB10794-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:46 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-14 18:46 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-15 6:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151015060045.GA23996-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 11:49 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-16 11:49 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-16 11:49 ` Chris Mason
[not found] ` <20151016114919.GB6874-DzB2rL6jT1BHfPKRx072akEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151016122544.GC5889-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 13:19 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-16 13:19 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-16 13:19 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-16 21:44 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2015-10-17 13:44 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-17 13:44 ` Chris Mason
2015-10-17 13:44 ` Chris Mason
[not found] ` <20151014184608.GK850-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-15 8:35 ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-15 8:35 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <1443634014-3026-1-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] vfs: Copy should check len after file open mode Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
[not found] ` <1443634014-3026-5-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-11 14:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-11 14:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] vfs: Add vfs_copy_file_range() support for pagecache copies Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-08 1:40 ` Neil Brown
2015-10-09 11:15 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-09 11:15 ` Pádraig Brady
[not found] ` <5617A1E9.1080509-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 20:25 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-13 20:25 ` Anna Schumaker
[not found] ` <561D68B9.8030209-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <87vbai6sud.fsf-wvvUuzkyo1HefUI2i7LXDhCRmIWqnp/j@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 19:45 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-13 19:45 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-13 19:45 ` Anna Schumaker
[not found] ` <1443634014-3026-9-git-send-email-Anna.Schumaker-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-11 14:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-11 14:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151011142203.GA31867-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-12 23:17 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-12 23:17 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-13 3:36 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <CAHQdGtQoV0g1p2FYC1vFtFwh=jNq5n+AYOxAuSORVfbfhRY1Hg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 7:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-13 7:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-13 7:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-13 7:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151012231749.GC11398-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-13 7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-10 6:24 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-14 17:59 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 17:59 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 17:59 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-10-14 18:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-14 18:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151014182701.GC31225-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-14 18:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWrHs6x+aZ7c=sySRCdzwdfUQZH_DL++vLL78NXXN+7FQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 18:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 18:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrV2ZG=EV5KLEeOERSbDjXCyaULAn0k34msSPFWvf0Tm9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 19:14 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-14 19:14 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-14 19:39 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-14 19:39 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-15 5:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-15 5:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-14 19:08 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-14 19:08 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <561EA83E.8080000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-15 6:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-15 6:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151015063621.GA3025-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-15 12:24 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-15 12:24 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <561F9B13.7020804-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 5:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 5:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 11:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-16 12:02 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-10-16 12:02 ` Pádraig Brady
[not found] ` <5620E74F.50006-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 12:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151016122453.GB5889-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-16 12:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <5620E3A1.90408-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 12:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 12:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 12:50 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-16 13:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-16 14:11 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <561E980C.9010509-ZwjVKphTwtPQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 18:11 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-14 18:11 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-10-14 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30 17:26 ` [PATCH v5 10/9] copy_file_range.2: New page documenting copy_file_range() Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-30 17:26 ` Anna Schumaker
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