From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: htejun@gmail.com, cl@linux.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
rientjes@google.com, oleg@redhat.com, kwalker@redhat.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
vdavydov@parallels.com, skozina@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de,
riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable()checks
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:36:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151023083612.GC2410@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201510230642.HDF57807.QJtSOVFFOMLHOF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Fri 23-10-15 06:42:43, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 05:49:22PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > I am confused. What makes rescuer to not run? Nothing seems to be
> > > hogging CPUs, we are just out of workers which are loopin in the
> > > allocator but that is preemptible context.
> >
> > It's concurrency management. Workqueue thinks that the pool is making
> > positive forward progress and doesn't schedule anything else for
> > execution while that work item is burning cpu cycles.
>
> Then, isn't below change easier to backport which will also alleviate
> needlessly burning CPU cycles?
This is quite obscure. If the vmstat_update fix needs workqueue tweaks
as well then I would vote for your original patch which is clear,
straightforward and easy to backport.
If WQ_MEM_RECLAIM can really guarantee one worker as described in the
documentation then I agree that fixing vmstat is a better fix. But that
doesn't seem to be the case currently.
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -3385,6 +3385,7 @@ retry:
> ((gfp_mask & __GFP_REPEAT) && pages_reclaimed < (1 << order))) {
> /* Wait for some write requests to complete then retry */
> wait_iff_congested(ac->preferred_zone, BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/50);
> + schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1);
> goto retry;
> }
>
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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: htejun@gmail.com, cl@linux.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
rientjes@google.com, oleg@redhat.com, kwalker@redhat.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
vdavydov@parallels.com, skozina@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de,
riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable()checks
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:36:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151023083612.GC2410@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201510230642.HDF57807.QJtSOVFFOMLHOF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Fri 23-10-15 06:42:43, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 05:49:22PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > I am confused. What makes rescuer to not run? Nothing seems to be
> > > hogging CPUs, we are just out of workers which are loopin in the
> > > allocator but that is preemptible context.
> >
> > It's concurrency management. Workqueue thinks that the pool is making
> > positive forward progress and doesn't schedule anything else for
> > execution while that work item is burning cpu cycles.
>
> Then, isn't below change easier to backport which will also alleviate
> needlessly burning CPU cycles?
This is quite obscure. If the vmstat_update fix needs workqueue tweaks
as well then I would vote for your original patch which is clear,
straightforward and easy to backport.
If WQ_MEM_RECLAIM can really guarantee one worker as described in the
documentation then I agree that fixing vmstat is a better fix. But that
doesn't seem to be the case currently.
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -3385,6 +3385,7 @@ retry:
> ((gfp_mask & __GFP_REPEAT) && pages_reclaimed < (1 << order))) {
> /* Wait for some write requests to complete then retry */
> wait_iff_congested(ac->preferred_zone, BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/50);
> + schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(1);
> goto retry;
> }
>
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SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-23 8:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-21 12:26 [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-21 12:26 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-21 13:03 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 13:03 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 14:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 14:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 14:33 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 14:33 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 14:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 14:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 14:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 14:55 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-21 15:39 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-21 15:39 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-21 17:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 17:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 11:37 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-22 11:37 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-22 13:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 13:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:09 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:09 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:24 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:24 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:33 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:33 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 14:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:14 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:14 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 4:26 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 4:26 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-02 15:01 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-02 15:01 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-02 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-02 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-03 2:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-11-03 2:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-11-03 19:43 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-03 19:43 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-05 14:59 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-11-05 14:59 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-11-05 17:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-11-05 17:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-11-06 0:16 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-06 0:16 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-11 15:44 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11 15:44 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11 16:03 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11 16:03 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 14:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 14:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:06 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:06 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:15 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:15 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 8:37 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 8:37 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 11:43 ` Make vmstat deferrable again (was Re: [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks) Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 11:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 12:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-10-23 12:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-10-23 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 14:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 14:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-10-23 14:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2015-10-23 16:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-23 16:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-22 15:35 ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:35 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:37 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:37 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 15:49 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 15:49 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-22 18:42 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 18:42 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 21:42 ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable()checks Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-22 21:42 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-22 22:47 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22 22:47 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 8:36 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-10-23 8:36 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 10:37 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 10:37 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 8:33 ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable() checks Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 8:33 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 10:36 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 10:36 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 11:11 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 11:11 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 12:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-23 12:25 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-23 18:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 18:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-25 10:52 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-25 10:52 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-25 22:47 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-25 22:47 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 9:22 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 9:22 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 10:55 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 10:55 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 12:07 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 12:07 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-23 18:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-23 18:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2015-10-27 10:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 10:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 11:07 ` [PATCH] mm,vmscan: Use accurate values for zone_reclaimable()checks Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-27 11:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-10-27 11:30 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 11:30 ` Tejun Heo
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