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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	Markus Pargmann <mpa@pengutronix.de>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Michael Welling <mwelling@ieee.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:21:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151106102121.GF22538@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZsNNdFcJHdPoW=kyOJ0ONS6_sHX18CPwYcQybQ9pSx2g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 03:11:48PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 06:18:42PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> 
> >> It'd be nice if devices could be uniquely identified in the chardev alone
> >> I think, then we don't need to much reliance on external assumptions
> >> and traversing sysfs somehow for more info.
> >
> > Point is that this is not a gpio-specific problem. Userspace needs to
> > deal with this for any resource it wants to access (e.g. i2c or spi).
> 
> Yeah let's see what others have to say.
> 
> > And you should be able to use libudev for tree-traversal without actually
> > using udevd, right?
> 
> Well libudev depends on libsystemd and is using it's subcomponent
> sd-device to traverse sysfs. It's a pretty fat dependency for a
> space-constrained embedded system, and the source code is not
> maintained outside systemd anymore, leading to an
> all-or-nothing approach it seems to me.

Seems to me like you're trying to solve a user-space problem in the
kernel. Even the network-device links you mentioned is something that
udev provides.

> I don't think it used to be like that but it is like that now...

Yeah, I'm not using the latest and greatest, but the libudev0 182 I took
a look at has no such dependencies and the lib seemed reasonably small
(40k).

IIRC there has been discussions about a standalone (mdev) version of it
as well.

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-06 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-22  8:32 [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] gpio: make the gpiochip a real device Linus Walleij
2015-10-24 18:09   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-25  7:06   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-26  2:12     ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 21:20     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:31   ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 12:25     ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 12:43       ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 12:47         ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 12:53           ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 13:06             ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 13:14               ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-02 13:17                 ` Mark Brown
2015-11-02 13:25                   ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 21:24     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-04 10:48       ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-05  9:44         ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-05 10:29           ` Mark Brown
2015-11-16 14:27           ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 14:04             ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 14:06               ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-03 21:26                 ` Michael Welling
2015-12-04 22:31                 ` Michael Welling
2015-12-11 17:58                   ` Linus Walleij
2015-12-08  9:29               ` Johan Hovold
2015-12-11 18:06                 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 2/6] gpio: refer to gpio device in prints and debugfs Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 3/6] gpio: add a userspace chardev ABI for GPIOs Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 20:35   ` Michael Welling
2015-10-24  0:30   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-01-28 11:13     ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-26  1:34   ` Mark Brown
2016-01-27 10:05   ` Bamvor Zhang Jian
2016-01-28 11:14     ` Linus Walleij
2016-01-29 10:24       ` Bamvor Zhang Jian
2016-02-10 10:04         ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 4/6] tools/gpio: create GPIO tools Linus Walleij
2015-10-25  8:23   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpio: add a userspace character device ABI Linus Walleij
2015-10-24 18:46   ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-22  8:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpio: ABI: mark the sysfs ABI as obsolete Linus Walleij
2015-10-22 18:57 ` [PATCH 0/6] GPIO character device skeleton Michael Welling
2015-10-24 17:53 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-30 14:40   ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:00     ` Johan Hovold
2015-10-24 18:42 ` Markus Pargmann
2015-10-30  1:55   ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-30 19:48     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:13       ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03  7:23         ` Markus Pargmann
2015-11-03 12:06           ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-03 17:18             ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-04 19:44               ` Michael Welling
2015-11-05  9:40               ` Johan Hovold
2015-11-05 14:11                 ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-06 10:21                   ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2015-11-16 13:33                     ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-03 17:05           ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-30 14:43   ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-30 22:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-01  9:37       ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-02 10:16         ` Johan Hovold
2015-10-26  2:18 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-30  1:55 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-30 19:47   ` Linus Walleij
2015-11-01  2:41     ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03  7:39       ` Markus Pargmann
2015-11-03  8:50         ` Mark Brown
2015-11-03 10:21           ` Amit Kucheria
2015-11-03 17:06           ` Linus Walleij

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