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From: Thierry Reding <treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot
	<acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Warren <twarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	u-boot-0aAXYlwwYIKGBzrmiIFOJg@public.gmane.org,
	gnurou-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/4] ARM: tegra210: gpu: configure WPR region
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:48:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109154742.GE11362@ulmo.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5640B994.7050307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>

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On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 08:19:48AM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 11/09/2015 07:36 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:59:04AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >>On 10/18/2015 10:57 PM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> >>>T210's GPU secure firmware loading requires a write-protected region
> >>>to be set up.
> >>>
> >>>This patch reserves the upper 256KB of RAM as the WPR region and locks
> >>>it so the kernel can initiate secure firmware loading.
> >>
> >>On T210, it's the responsibility of nvtboot (which runs before U-Boot) to
> >>set up any and all carve-outs. This code should not be necessary, and indeed
> >>I expect the registers it touches can't actually be programmed from U-Boot,
> >>which runs in non-secure mode after WPR is already locked.
> >
> >Can we document this assumption somewhere? It's entirely possible that
> >someone might want to run U-Boot without nvtboot
> 
> That's not currently a supported use-case.

Isn't the whole point of open-source for people to be able to do all the
things that aren't supported?

> >, in which case nvtboot
> >would still need to be responsible for setting this up.
> 
> I assume s/nvtboot/whatever other bootloader is in use/?

Right, I was going to write U-Boot here, but that's obviously only true
if U-Boot is still running in secure mode. Otherwise, yes, it'd be what-
ever is the other bootloader being used.

> >Or if it isn't
> >we could still point at some location where the interactions between a
> >first stage bootloader and U-Boot are documented.
> >
> >Do we have a document of this kind already?
> 
> The L4T U-Boot source code:-)

There's a bunch of things that even the L4T U-Boot doesn't document. The
fact that it doesn't initialize the SMMU or WPR doesn't indicate that it
is something that a first stage bootloader needs to do.

Thierry

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From: Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/4] ARM: tegra210: gpu: configure WPR region
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:48:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109154742.GE11362@ulmo.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5640B994.7050307@wwwdotorg.org>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 08:19:48AM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 11/09/2015 07:36 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:59:04AM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >>On 10/18/2015 10:57 PM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
> >>>T210's GPU secure firmware loading requires a write-protected region
> >>>to be set up.
> >>>
> >>>This patch reserves the upper 256KB of RAM as the WPR region and locks
> >>>it so the kernel can initiate secure firmware loading.
> >>
> >>On T210, it's the responsibility of nvtboot (which runs before U-Boot) to
> >>set up any and all carve-outs. This code should not be necessary, and indeed
> >>I expect the registers it touches can't actually be programmed from U-Boot,
> >>which runs in non-secure mode after WPR is already locked.
> >
> >Can we document this assumption somewhere? It's entirely possible that
> >someone might want to run U-Boot without nvtboot
> 
> That's not currently a supported use-case.

Isn't the whole point of open-source for people to be able to do all the
things that aren't supported?

> >, in which case nvtboot
> >would still need to be responsible for setting this up.
> 
> I assume s/nvtboot/whatever other bootloader is in use/?

Right, I was going to write U-Boot here, but that's obviously only true
if U-Boot is still running in secure mode. Otherwise, yes, it'd be what-
ever is the other bootloader being used.

> >Or if it isn't
> >we could still point at some location where the interactions between a
> >first stage bootloader and U-Boot are documented.
> >
> >Do we have a document of this kind already?
> 
> The L4T U-Boot source code:-)

There's a bunch of things that even the L4T U-Boot doesn't document. The
fact that it doesn't initialize the SMMU or WPR doesn't indicate that it
is something that a first stage bootloader needs to do.

Thierry
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-09 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-19  4:57 [PATCH 0/4] ARM: tegra: GPU WPR region support Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57 ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
     [not found] ` <1445230624-30314-1-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-19  4:57   ` [PATCH 1/4] ARM: tegra: remove vpr_configured() function Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57     ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57   ` [PATCH 2/4] ARM: tegra: simplify GPU setup Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57     ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57   ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: tegra: rename GPU functions Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57     ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]     ` <1445230624-30314-4-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28 17:57       ` Stephen Warren
2015-10-28 17:57         ` Stephen Warren
2015-10-19  4:57   ` [PATCH 4/4] ARM: tegra210: gpu: configure WPR region Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-19  4:57     ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]     ` <1445230624-30314-5-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28 17:59       ` Stephen Warren
2015-10-28 17:59         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <56310CE8.3050107-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28 23:55           ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-28 23:55             ` Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]             ` <5631605B.4020800-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-29  3:47               ` Stephen Warren
2015-10-29  3:47                 ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-09 14:36           ` Thierry Reding
2015-11-09 14:36             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20151109143654.GB11362-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-09 15:19               ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-09 15:19                 ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <5640B994.7050307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-09 15:48                   ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2015-11-09 15:48                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20151109154742.GE11362-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-09 16:18                       ` Stephen Warren
2015-11-09 16:18                         ` Stephen Warren
2015-10-26  5:50   ` [PATCH 0/4] ARM: tegra: GPU WPR region support Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-26  5:50     ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]     ` <CAAVeFuLENPfjy1k2ZTUArTph_6wbAxXninZ2Tmp6-MV4zVgaHw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-27 15:57       ` Tom Warren
2015-10-27 15:57         ` [U-Boot] " Tom Warren
     [not found]         ` <caa39e0a12454046a1638aae190f0161-wO81nVYWzR66sJks/06JalaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28  9:13           ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-28  9:13             ` [U-Boot] " Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-28 15:44             ` Tom Warren
2015-10-28 15:44               ` [U-Boot] " Tom Warren

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