From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:12:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109201218.GP31308@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151109193253.GC28507-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 02:32:53PM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:27:47PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > Of course, we could rework slab merging so that kmem_cache_create
> > returned a new dummy cache even if it was actually merged. Such a cache
> > would point to the real cache, which would be used for allocations. This
> > wouldn't limit slab merging, but this would add one more dereference to
> > alloc path, which is even worse.
>
> Hmmm, this could be me not really understanding but why can't we let
> all slabs to be merged regardless of SLAB_ACCOUNT flag for root memcg
> and point to per-memcg slabs (may be merged among them but most likely
Because we won't be able to distinguish kmem_cache_alloc calls that
should be accounted from those that shouldn't. The problem is if two
caches
A = kmem_cache_create(...)
and
B = kmem_cache_create(...)
happen to be merged, A and B will point to the same kmem_cache struct.
As a result, there is no way to distinguish
kmem_cache_alloc(A)
which we want to account from
kmem_cache_alloc(B)
which we don't.
> won't matter) for !root. We're indirecting once anyway, no?
If kmem accounting is not used, we aren't indirecting. That's why I
don't think we can use dummy kmem_cache struct for merged caches, where
we could store __GFP_ACCOUNT flag.
Thanks,
Vladimir
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:12:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109201218.GP31308@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151109193253.GC28507@mtj.duckdns.org>
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 02:32:53PM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:27:47PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > Of course, we could rework slab merging so that kmem_cache_create
> > returned a new dummy cache even if it was actually merged. Such a cache
> > would point to the real cache, which would be used for allocations. This
> > wouldn't limit slab merging, but this would add one more dereference to
> > alloc path, which is even worse.
>
> Hmmm, this could be me not really understanding but why can't we let
> all slabs to be merged regardless of SLAB_ACCOUNT flag for root memcg
> and point to per-memcg slabs (may be merged among them but most likely
Because we won't be able to distinguish kmem_cache_alloc calls that
should be accounted from those that shouldn't. The problem is if two
caches
A = kmem_cache_create(...)
and
B = kmem_cache_create(...)
happen to be merged, A and B will point to the same kmem_cache struct.
As a result, there is no way to distinguish
kmem_cache_alloc(A)
which we want to account from
kmem_cache_alloc(B)
which we don't.
> won't matter) for !root. We're indirecting once anyway, no?
If kmem accounting is not used, we aren't indirecting. That's why I
don't think we can use dummy kmem_cache struct for merged caches, where
we could store __GFP_ACCOUNT flag.
Thanks,
Vladimir
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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 23:12:18 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109201218.GP31308@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151109193253.GC28507@mtj.duckdns.org>
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 02:32:53PM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:27:47PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > Of course, we could rework slab merging so that kmem_cache_create
> > returned a new dummy cache even if it was actually merged. Such a cache
> > would point to the real cache, which would be used for allocations. This
> > wouldn't limit slab merging, but this would add one more dereference to
> > alloc path, which is even worse.
>
> Hmmm, this could be me not really understanding but why can't we let
> all slabs to be merged regardless of SLAB_ACCOUNT flag for root memcg
> and point to per-memcg slabs (may be merged among them but most likely
Because we won't be able to distinguish kmem_cache_alloc calls that
should be accounted from those that shouldn't. The problem is if two
caches
A = kmem_cache_create(...)
and
B = kmem_cache_create(...)
happen to be merged, A and B will point to the same kmem_cache struct.
As a result, there is no way to distinguish
kmem_cache_alloc(A)
which we want to account from
kmem_cache_alloc(B)
which we don't.
> won't matter) for !root. We're indirecting once anyway, no?
If kmem accounting is not used, we aren't indirecting. That's why I
don't think we can use dummy kmem_cache struct for merged caches, where
we could store __GFP_ACCOUNT flag.
Thanks,
Vladimir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-09 20:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-07 20:07 [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
[not found] ` <cover.1446924358.git.vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 1/5] Revert "kernfs: do not account ino_ida allocations to memcg" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 3/5] memcg: only account kmem allocations marked as __GFP_ACCOUNT Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmalloc: allow to account vmalloc to memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 5/5] Account certain kmem allocations " Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 14:39 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:39 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20151109143955.GF8916-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 8:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 8:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 8:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-10 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-10 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:08 ` [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:08 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 16:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-09 16:45 ` Johannes Weiner
[not found] ` <20151109140832.GE8916-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-09 18:28 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:28 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:28 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:54 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 18:54 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20151109185401.GB28507-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-09 19:27 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:27 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:27 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:32 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 19:32 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20151109193253.GC28507-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-09 20:12 ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2015-11-09 20:12 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 20:12 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 20:30 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 20:30 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 20:30 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-10 7:49 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 7:49 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-11 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
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