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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] slab: add SLAB_ACCOUNT flag
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:07:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151111160719.GX31308@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151111155450.GB6246-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:54:50AM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:54:01PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > Am I correct in thinking that we should eventually be able to removed
> > > __GFP_ACCOUNT and that only caches explicitly marked with SLAB_ACCOUNT
> > > would need to be handled by kmemcg?
> > 
> > Don't think so, because sometimes we want to account kmalloc.
> 
> I'm kinda skeptical about that because if those allocations are
> occassional by nature, we don't care and if there can be a huge number
> of them, splitting them into a separate cache makes sense.  I think it
> makes sense to pin down exactly which caches are memcg managed.  That
> has the potential to simplify the involved code path and shave off a
> small bit of hot path overhead.

What about external_name allocation in __d_alloc? Is it occasional?
Depends on the workload I guess. Can we create a separate cache for it?
No, because its size is variable. There are other things like that, e.g.
pipe_buffer array.

Thanks,
Vladimir

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] slab: add SLAB_ACCOUNT flag
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:07:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151111160719.GX31308@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151111155450.GB6246@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:54:50AM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:54:01PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > Am I correct in thinking that we should eventually be able to removed
> > > __GFP_ACCOUNT and that only caches explicitly marked with SLAB_ACCOUNT
> > > would need to be handled by kmemcg?
> > 
> > Don't think so, because sometimes we want to account kmalloc.
> 
> I'm kinda skeptical about that because if those allocations are
> occassional by nature, we don't care and if there can be a huge number
> of them, splitting them into a separate cache makes sense.  I think it
> makes sense to pin down exactly which caches are memcg managed.  That
> has the potential to simplify the involved code path and shave off a
> small bit of hot path overhead.

What about external_name allocation in __d_alloc? Is it occasional?
Depends on the workload I guess. Can we create a separate cache for it?
No, because its size is variable. There are other things like that, e.g.
pipe_buffer array.

Thanks,
Vladimir

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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] slab: add SLAB_ACCOUNT flag
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:07:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151111160719.GX31308@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151111155450.GB6246@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:54:50AM -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:54:01PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > Am I correct in thinking that we should eventually be able to removed
> > > __GFP_ACCOUNT and that only caches explicitly marked with SLAB_ACCOUNT
> > > would need to be handled by kmemcg?
> > 
> > Don't think so, because sometimes we want to account kmalloc.
> 
> I'm kinda skeptical about that because if those allocations are
> occassional by nature, we don't care and if there can be a huge number
> of them, splitting them into a separate cache makes sense.  I think it
> makes sense to pin down exactly which caches are memcg managed.  That
> has the potential to simplify the involved code path and shave off a
> small bit of hot path overhead.

What about external_name allocation in __d_alloc? Is it occasional?
Depends on the workload I guess. Can we create a separate cache for it?
No, because its size is variable. There are other things like that, e.g.
pipe_buffer array.

Thanks,
Vladimir

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-11 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-10 18:34 [PATCH v2 0/6] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] Revert "kernfs: do not account ino_ida allocations to memcg" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-19 18:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 18:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-10 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Revert "gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-19 18:59   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 18:59     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-10 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] memcg: only account kmem allocations marked as __GFP_ACCOUNT Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <14d7a7f5e696d71793ddd835604de309af1963fd.1447172835.git.vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12 16:04     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-12 16:04       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-12 16:04       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-19 19:00     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-10 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] slab: add SLAB_ACCOUNT flag Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <1ce23e932ea53f47a3376de90b21a9db8293bd6c.1447172835.git.vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 18:38     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-10 18:38       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-10 18:38       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-10 18:54       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:54         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-11 15:54         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-11 15:54           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-11 15:54           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20151111155450.GB6246-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 16:07             ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2015-11-11 16:07               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-11 16:07               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-11 16:19               ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-11 16:19                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-12 16:17     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-12 16:17       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-12 16:17       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-14 11:29       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-14 11:29         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-19 19:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:01       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:01       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <cover.1447172835.git.vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 18:34   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] vmalloc: allow to account vmalloc to memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34     ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]     ` <b02165792beff56fa6a13bc23b9a21df11395aec.1447172835.git.vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-19 19:04       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:04         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:04         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-10 18:34 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Account certain kmem allocations " Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 18:34   ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]   ` <3af491b9661b97708ec38e9f9a4f0cccb69ade5c.1447172835.git.vdavydov-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12 16:50     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-12 16:50       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-12 16:50       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-19 19:12     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:12       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-19 19:12       ` Johannes Weiner

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