From: Petr Mladek <pmladek-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
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"Paul E. McKenney"
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Borislav Petkov <bp-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/22] timer: Allow to check when the timer callback has not finished yet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:43:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151119124349.GP4431@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1511182331010.3761@nanos>
On Wed 2015-11-18 23:32:28, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > timer_pending() checks whether the list of callbacks is empty.
> > Each callback is removed from the list before it is called,
> > see call_timer_fn() in __run_timers().
> >
> > Sometimes we need to make sure that the callback has finished.
> > For example, if we want to free some resources that are accessed
> > by the callback.
> >
> > For this purpose, this patch adds timer_active(). It checks both
> > the list of callbacks and the running_timer. It takes the base_lock
> > to see a consistent state.
> >
> > I plan to use it to implement delayed works in kthread worker.
> > But I guess that it will have wider use. In fact, I wonder if
> > timer_pending() is misused in some situations.
>
> Well. That's nice and good. But how will that new function solve
> anything? After you drop the lock the state is not longer valid.
If we prevent anyone from setting up the timer and timer_pending()
returns false, we are sure that the timer will stay as is.
For example, I use it in the function try_to_cancel_kthread_work().
Any manipulation with the timer is protected by worker->lock.
If the timer is not pending but still active, I have to drop
the lock and busy wait for the timer callback. See
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/141493/focus=141501
Also I wonder if the following usage in
drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/nes_cm.c is safe:
static int mini_cm_dealloc_core(struct nes_cm_core *cm_core)
{
nes_debug(NES_DBG_CM, "De-Alloc CM Core (%p)\n", cm_core);
if (!cm_core)
return -EINVAL;
barrier();
if (timer_pending(&cm_core->tcp_timer))
del_timer(&cm_core->tcp_timer);
destroy_workqueue(cm_core->event_wq);
destroy_workqueue(cm_core->disconn_wq);
We destroy the workqueue but the timer callback might still
be in progress and queue new work.
There are many more locations where I see the pattern:
if (timer_pending())
del_timer();
clean_up_stuff();
IMHO, we should use:
if (timer_active())
del_timer_sync();
/* really safe to free stuff */
clean_up_stuff();
or just
del_timer_sync();
clean_up_stuff();
I wonder if timer_pending() is used in more racy scenarios. Or maybe,
I just miss something that makes it all safe.
Thanks,
Petr
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/22] timer: Allow to check when the timer callback has not finished yet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:43:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151119124349.GP4431@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1511182331010.3761@nanos>
On Wed 2015-11-18 23:32:28, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > timer_pending() checks whether the list of callbacks is empty.
> > Each callback is removed from the list before it is called,
> > see call_timer_fn() in __run_timers().
> >
> > Sometimes we need to make sure that the callback has finished.
> > For example, if we want to free some resources that are accessed
> > by the callback.
> >
> > For this purpose, this patch adds timer_active(). It checks both
> > the list of callbacks and the running_timer. It takes the base_lock
> > to see a consistent state.
> >
> > I plan to use it to implement delayed works in kthread worker.
> > But I guess that it will have wider use. In fact, I wonder if
> > timer_pending() is misused in some situations.
>
> Well. That's nice and good. But how will that new function solve
> anything? After you drop the lock the state is not longer valid.
If we prevent anyone from setting up the timer and timer_pending()
returns false, we are sure that the timer will stay as is.
For example, I use it in the function try_to_cancel_kthread_work().
Any manipulation with the timer is protected by worker->lock.
If the timer is not pending but still active, I have to drop
the lock and busy wait for the timer callback. See
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/141493/focus=141501
Also I wonder if the following usage in
drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/nes_cm.c is safe:
static int mini_cm_dealloc_core(struct nes_cm_core *cm_core)
{
nes_debug(NES_DBG_CM, "De-Alloc CM Core (%p)\n", cm_core);
if (!cm_core)
return -EINVAL;
barrier();
if (timer_pending(&cm_core->tcp_timer))
del_timer(&cm_core->tcp_timer);
destroy_workqueue(cm_core->event_wq);
destroy_workqueue(cm_core->disconn_wq);
We destroy the workqueue but the timer callback might still
be in progress and queue new work.
There are many more locations where I see the pattern:
if (timer_pending())
del_timer();
clean_up_stuff();
IMHO, we should use:
if (timer_active())
del_timer_sync();
/* really safe to free stuff */
clean_up_stuff();
or just
del_timer_sync();
clean_up_stuff();
I wonder if timer_pending() is used in more racy scenarios. Or maybe,
I just miss something that makes it all safe.
Thanks,
Petr
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/22] timer: Allow to check when the timer callback has not finished yet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:43:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151119124349.GP4431@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1511182331010.3761@nanos>
On Wed 2015-11-18 23:32:28, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > timer_pending() checks whether the list of callbacks is empty.
> > Each callback is removed from the list before it is called,
> > see call_timer_fn() in __run_timers().
> >
> > Sometimes we need to make sure that the callback has finished.
> > For example, if we want to free some resources that are accessed
> > by the callback.
> >
> > For this purpose, this patch adds timer_active(). It checks both
> > the list of callbacks and the running_timer. It takes the base_lock
> > to see a consistent state.
> >
> > I plan to use it to implement delayed works in kthread worker.
> > But I guess that it will have wider use. In fact, I wonder if
> > timer_pending() is misused in some situations.
>
> Well. That's nice and good. But how will that new function solve
> anything? After you drop the lock the state is not longer valid.
If we prevent anyone from setting up the timer and timer_pending()
returns false, we are sure that the timer will stay as is.
For example, I use it in the function try_to_cancel_kthread_work().
Any manipulation with the timer is protected by worker->lock.
If the timer is not pending but still active, I have to drop
the lock and busy wait for the timer callback. See
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/141493/focus=141501
Also I wonder if the following usage in
drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/nes_cm.c is safe:
static int mini_cm_dealloc_core(struct nes_cm_core *cm_core)
{
nes_debug(NES_DBG_CM, "De-Alloc CM Core (%p)\n", cm_core);
if (!cm_core)
return -EINVAL;
barrier();
if (timer_pending(&cm_core->tcp_timer))
del_timer(&cm_core->tcp_timer);
destroy_workqueue(cm_core->event_wq);
destroy_workqueue(cm_core->disconn_wq);
We destroy the workqueue but the timer callback might still
be in progress and queue new work.
There are many more locations where I see the pattern:
if (timer_pending())
del_timer();
clean_up_stuff();
IMHO, we should use:
if (timer_active())
del_timer_sync();
/* really safe to free stuff */
clean_up_stuff();
or just
del_timer_sync();
clean_up_stuff();
I wonder if timer_pending() is used in more racy scenarios. Or maybe,
I just miss something that makes it all safe.
Thanks,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-19 12:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-18 13:25 [PATCH v3 00/22] kthread: Use kthread worker API more widely Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/22] timer: Allow to check when the timer callback has not finished yet Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 22:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-18 22:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-19 12:43 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2015-11-19 12:43 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-19 12:43 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/22] kthread/smpboot: Do not park in kthread_create_on_cpu() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <1447853127-3461-3-git-send-email-pmladek-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-25 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-25 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/22] kthread: Allow to call __kthread_create_on_node() with va_list args Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/22] kthread: Add create_kthread_worker*() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/22] kthread: Add drain_kthread_worker() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/22] kthread: Add destroy_kthread_worker() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/22] kthread: Detect when a kthread work is used by more workers Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-23 22:27 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-23 22:27 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20151123222703.GH19072-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 10:06 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 10:06 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 10:06 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 14:49 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 14:49 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:28 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 16:28 ` Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <20151124100650.GF10750-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-24 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-24 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/22] kthread: Initial support for delayed kthread work Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/22] kthread: Allow to cancel " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <1447853127-3461-10-git-send-email-pmladek-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 22:58 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-23 22:58 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-23 22:58 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 10:21 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 10:21 ` Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <20151123225823.GI19072-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CA+55aFyW=hp-myZGcL+5r2x+fUbpBJLmxDY66QB5VQj-nNsCxQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 20:28 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 20:28 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 20:28 ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/22] kthread: Allow to modify delayed " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/22] kthread: Better support freezable kthread workers Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/22] kthread: Use try_lock_kthread_work() in flush_kthread_work() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/22] mm/huge_page: Convert khugepaged() into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/22] ring_buffer: Convert benchmark kthreads " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/22] hung_task: Convert hungtaskd " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/22] kmemleak: Convert kmemleak kthread " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/22] ipmi: Convert kipmi " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-23 19:36 ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-23 19:36 ` Corey Minyard
[not found] ` <56536AA6.5040102-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 12:12 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 12:12 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 12:12 ` Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <20151124121233.GH10750-KsEp0d+Q8qECVLCxKZUutA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 13:30 ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-24 13:30 ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-24 13:30 ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/22] IB/fmr_pool: Convert the cleanup thread " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-19 12:46 ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-19 12:46 ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/22] memstick/r592: Better synchronize debug messages in r592_io kthread Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/22] memstick/r592: convert r592_io kthread into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/22] thermal/intel_powerclamp: Remove duplicated code that starts the kthread Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 22/22] thermal/intel_powerclamp: Convert the kthread to kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-07 19:55 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-07 19:55 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-08 16:49 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-08 16:49 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12 2:17 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-12 2:17 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-12 10:11 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12 10:11 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12 16:20 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-12 16:20 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-13 10:18 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-13 10:18 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-13 10:18 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-13 17:53 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-13 17:53 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-14 15:37 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-14 15:37 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/22] kthread: Use kthread worker API more widely Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 14:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 14:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
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