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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Daniel Walker <danielwa@cisco.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Khalid Mughal (khalidm)" <khalidm@cisco.com>,
	"xe-kernel@external.cisco.com" <xe-kernel@external.cisco.com>
Subject: Re: computing drop-able caches
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160128235815.GA5953@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56AAA77D.7090000@cisco.com>

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:42:53PM -0800, Daniel Walker wrote:
> "Currently there is no way to figure out the droppable pagecache size
> from the meminfo output. The MemFree size can shrink during normal
> system operation, when some of the memory pages get cached and is
> reflected in "Cached" field. Similarly for file operations some of
> the buffer memory gets cached and it is reflected in "Buffers" field.
> The kernel automatically reclaims all this cached & buffered memory,
> when it is needed elsewhere on the system. The only way to manually
> reclaim this memory is by writing 1 to /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches. "

[...]

> The point of the whole exercise is to get a better idea of free memory for
> our employer. Does it make sense to do this for computing free memory?

/proc/meminfo::MemAvailable was added for this purpose. See the doc
text in Documentation/filesystem/proc.txt.

It's an approximation, however, because this question is not easy to
answer. Pages might be in various states and uses that can make them
unreclaimable.

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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Daniel Walker <danielwa@cisco.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Khalid Mughal (khalidm)" <khalidm@cisco.com>,
	"xe-kernel@external.cisco.com" <xe-kernel@external.cisco.com>
Subject: Re: computing drop-able caches
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:58:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160128235815.GA5953@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56AAA77D.7090000@cisco.com>

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 03:42:53PM -0800, Daniel Walker wrote:
> "Currently there is no way to figure out the droppable pagecache size
> from the meminfo output. The MemFree size can shrink during normal
> system operation, when some of the memory pages get cached and is
> reflected in "Cached" field. Similarly for file operations some of
> the buffer memory gets cached and it is reflected in "Buffers" field.
> The kernel automatically reclaims all this cached & buffered memory,
> when it is needed elsewhere on the system. The only way to manually
> reclaim this memory is by writing 1 to /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches. "

[...]

> The point of the whole exercise is to get a better idea of free memory for
> our employer. Does it make sense to do this for computing free memory?

/proc/meminfo::MemAvailable was added for this purpose. See the doc
text in Documentation/filesystem/proc.txt.

It's an approximation, however, because this question is not easy to
answer. Pages might be in various states and uses that can make them
unreclaimable.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-28 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 23:42 computing drop-able caches Daniel Walker
2016-01-28 23:42 ` Daniel Walker
2016-01-28 23:58 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2016-01-28 23:58   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29  1:03   ` Daniel Walker
2016-01-29  1:03     ` Daniel Walker
2016-01-29  1:29     ` Daniel Walker
2016-01-29  1:55       ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29  1:55         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29 21:21         ` Daniel Walker
2016-01-29 21:21           ` Daniel Walker
2016-01-29 22:33           ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29 22:33             ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29 22:41         ` Rik van Riel
2016-01-29 22:41           ` Rik van Riel
2016-02-08 20:57           ` Khalid Mughal (khalidm)
2016-02-08 20:57             ` Khalid Mughal (khalidm)
2016-02-10 18:04             ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-10 18:04               ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-10 18:13               ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-10 18:13                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-10 19:11                 ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-10 19:11                   ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-11 22:11                   ` Rik van Riel
2016-02-12 18:01                     ` Khalid Mughal (khalidm)
2016-02-12 21:46                       ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 21:46                         ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 21:46                         ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 22:15                         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-02-12 22:15                           ` Johannes Weiner
2016-02-12 22:15                           ` Johannes Weiner
2016-02-12 18:06 ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 18:06   ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 18:15   ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-12 18:15     ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-12 18:18     ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 18:18       ` Dave Hansen
2016-02-12 18:25       ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-12 18:25         ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-12 20:15       ` Daniel Walker
2016-02-12 20:15         ` Daniel Walker

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