From: lee.jones@linaro.org (Lee Jones)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/3] clk: Provide OF helper to mark clocks as CRITICAL
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:02:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202150255.GA9906@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B0B1AE.2060502@arm.com>
On Tue, 02 Feb 2016, Andre Przywara wrote:
> Hi Maxime,
>
> On 01/02/16 06:32, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > Hi Andre,
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:51:45PM +0000, Andr? Przywara wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 18/01/16 14:28, Lee Jones wrote:
> >>> This call matches clocks which have been marked as critical in DT
> >>> and sets the appropriate flag. These flags can then be used to
> >>> mark the clock core flags appropriately prior to registration.
> >>
> >> I like the idea of having a generic property very much. Also this solves
> >> a problem I have in a very elegant way.
> >
> > Not really. It has a significant set of drawbacks that we already
> > detailed in the initial thread, which are mostly related to the fact
> > that the clocks are to be left on is something that totally depends on
> > the software support in the kernel. Some clocks should be reported as
> > critical because they are simply missing a driver for it, some should
> > be because the driver for it as not been compiled, some should because
> > we don't have the proper clocks drivers yet for one of their
> > downstream clocks.
> >
> > Basically, it all boils down to this: some clocks should never ever be
> > shutdown because <hardware reason>, and I believe it's the case Lee is
> > in. But most of the current code that would use it might, and might
> > even need at some point to shut down such a clock.
>
> I was bascically interested in pushing the critical-clock property into
> DT to solve that cumbersome clk-sunxi init scheme - which you have fixed
> now in a much better way (thanks for that, btw.)
> For that particular case the CPU clock really looks like being actually
> critical in the hardware sense - no-one maybe except the mgmt core
> should turn the one single CPU clock source off.
>
> So I wonder if we should document this "for hardware reasons only" and
> still have that property in DT?
> At the weekend I coded something into the generic DT clock code to let
> it parse for basically every clock node - without a particular driver
> needing to ask for it.
> If this sounds useful to you I can post that one.
It sounds very useful. Very useful indeed. But then I would say
that, because that's how this all started in the first place: ;)
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/22/299
I still think it's a pretty elegant method, but it was NACKed by Mike.
--
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org ? Open source software for ARM SoCs
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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@stlinux.com,
s.hauer@pengutronix.de, sboyd@codeaurora.org,
geert@linux-m68k.org, mturquette@baylibre.com,
maxime.coquelin@st.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] clk: Provide OF helper to mark clocks as CRITICAL
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:02:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202150255.GA9906@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B0B1AE.2060502@arm.com>
On Tue, 02 Feb 2016, Andre Przywara wrote:
> Hi Maxime,
>
> On 01/02/16 06:32, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > Hi Andre,
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:51:45PM +0000, André Przywara wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 18/01/16 14:28, Lee Jones wrote:
> >>> This call matches clocks which have been marked as critical in DT
> >>> and sets the appropriate flag. These flags can then be used to
> >>> mark the clock core flags appropriately prior to registration.
> >>
> >> I like the idea of having a generic property very much. Also this solves
> >> a problem I have in a very elegant way.
> >
> > Not really. It has a significant set of drawbacks that we already
> > detailed in the initial thread, which are mostly related to the fact
> > that the clocks are to be left on is something that totally depends on
> > the software support in the kernel. Some clocks should be reported as
> > critical because they are simply missing a driver for it, some should
> > be because the driver for it as not been compiled, some should because
> > we don't have the proper clocks drivers yet for one of their
> > downstream clocks.
> >
> > Basically, it all boils down to this: some clocks should never ever be
> > shutdown because <hardware reason>, and I believe it's the case Lee is
> > in. But most of the current code that would use it might, and might
> > even need at some point to shut down such a clock.
>
> I was bascically interested in pushing the critical-clock property into
> DT to solve that cumbersome clk-sunxi init scheme - which you have fixed
> now in a much better way (thanks for that, btw.)
> For that particular case the CPU clock really looks like being actually
> critical in the hardware sense - no-one maybe except the mgmt core
> should turn the one single CPU clock source off.
>
> So I wonder if we should document this "for hardware reasons only" and
> still have that property in DT?
> At the weekend I coded something into the generic DT clock code to let
> it parse for basically every clock node - without a particular driver
> needing to ask for it.
> If this sounds useful to you I can post that one.
It sounds very useful. Very useful indeed. But then I would say
that, because that's how this all started in the first place: ;)
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/22/299
I still think it's a pretty elegant method, but it was NACKed by Mike.
--
Lee Jones
Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-02 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-18 14:28 [PATCH 0/3] clk: Add support for critical clocks Lee Jones
2016-01-18 14:28 ` Lee Jones
2016-01-18 14:28 ` [PATCH 1/3] clk: Allow clocks to be marked as CRITICAL Lee Jones
2016-01-18 14:28 ` Lee Jones
2016-01-18 17:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-01-18 17:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-01-19 7:53 ` Lee Jones
2016-01-19 7:53 ` Lee Jones
2016-02-11 0:41 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 0:41 ` Michael Turquette
2016-01-18 14:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] clk: WARN_ON about to disable a critical clock Lee Jones
2016-01-18 14:28 ` Lee Jones
2016-02-11 0:43 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 0:43 ` Michael Turquette
2017-06-27 11:16 ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-27 11:16 ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-03 11:53 ` Lee Jones
2017-07-03 11:53 ` Lee Jones
2017-07-03 12:01 ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-03 12:01 ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-03 14:25 ` Lee Jones
2017-07-03 14:25 ` Lee Jones
2017-07-03 15:24 ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-03 15:24 ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-03 16:06 ` Lee Jones
2017-07-03 16:06 ` Lee Jones
2016-01-18 14:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] clk: Provide OF helper to mark clocks as CRITICAL Lee Jones
2016-01-18 14:28 ` Lee Jones
2016-01-27 23:51 ` André Przywara
2016-01-27 23:51 ` André Przywara
2016-02-01 6:32 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-02-01 6:32 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-02-01 8:22 ` Lee Jones
2016-02-01 8:22 ` Lee Jones
2016-02-11 0:38 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 0:38 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-02 13:39 ` Andre Przywara
2016-02-02 13:39 ` Andre Przywara
2016-02-02 15:02 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2016-02-02 15:02 ` Lee Jones
2016-02-11 0:48 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 0:48 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 1:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] clk: Add support for critical clocks Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 1:00 ` Michael Turquette
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