* Scheduled alsa-lib release?
@ 2016-03-08 16:49 Takashi Iwai
2016-03-09 6:16 ` Vinod Koul
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From: Takashi Iwai @ 2016-03-08 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
Hi,
in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
"predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
alsa-lib 1.1.0 was released in the beginning of November, which was
just after 4.3 kernel release. Now 4.5 kernel release will be likely
in the next week or one week after that.
Jaroslav, how about releasing alsa-lib 1.1.1 around that?
There are a few pending patches, but they should be available soon.
thanks,
Takashi
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* Re: Scheduled alsa-lib release?
2016-03-08 16:49 Scheduled alsa-lib release? Takashi Iwai
@ 2016-03-09 6:16 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-09 6:17 ` Takashi Iwai
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From: Vinod Koul @ 2016-03-09 6:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
> "predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
> release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
>
> alsa-lib 1.1.0 was released in the beginning of November, which was
> just after 4.3 kernel release. Now 4.5 kernel release will be likely
> in the next week or one week after that.
+1
So we should release it on monday then if Linus does release on Sunday
>
> Jaroslav, how about releasing alsa-lib 1.1.1 around that?
> There are a few pending patches, but they should be available soon.
--
~Vinod
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* Re: Scheduled alsa-lib release?
2016-03-09 6:16 ` Vinod Koul
@ 2016-03-09 6:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-03-09 7:47 ` Takashi Sakamoto
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2016-03-09 6:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vinod Koul; +Cc: alsa-devel
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:16:24 +0100,
Vinod Koul wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
> > "predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
> > release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
> >
> > alsa-lib 1.1.0 was released in the beginning of November, which was
> > just after 4.3 kernel release. Now 4.5 kernel release will be likely
> > in the next week or one week after that.
>
> +1
>
> So we should release it on monday then if Linus does release on Sunday
Heh, we don't have to be that strict. But at least we can start
working on releasing.
Takashi
>
> >
> > Jaroslav, how about releasing alsa-lib 1.1.1 around that?
> > There are a few pending patches, but they should be available soon.
>
> --
> ~Vinod
>
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* Re: Scheduled alsa-lib release?
2016-03-09 6:17 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2016-03-09 7:47 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-03-09 7:52 ` Takashi Iwai
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Sakamoto @ 2016-03-09 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai, Vinod Koul; +Cc: alsa-devel
Hi,
On Mar 9 2016 15:17, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:16:24 +0100,
> Vinod Koul wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
>>> "predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
>>> release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
As a quick glance of the number of commits per month (see in the end of
this message), alsa-lib is not so actively developed recently. (except
for topology APIs)
I think releasing every 2 months makes the release maintenance effort
more hard than its actual advantage. It better to release alsa-lib for 2
or more kernel release cycles.
>>> alsa-lib 1.1.0 was released in the beginning of November, which was
>>> just after 4.3 kernel release. Now 4.5 kernel release will be likely
>>> in the next week or one week after that.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> So we should release it on monday then if Linus does release on Sunday
>
> Heh, we don't have to be that strict. But at least we can start
> working on releasing.
For the idea itself to release alsa-lib 1.1.1 in this month, I agree.
(In this case, I might hurry up for my proposals of APIs to add control
element set, after my work for Dice drivers will be merged into
linux-next branch.)
>>> Jaroslav, how about releasing alsa-lib 1.1.1 around that?
>>> There are a few pending patches, but they should be available soon.
>>
>> --
>> ~Vinod
$ cd alsa-lib.git
$ git log --pretty=format:"%ad" --date=short | sed -E
's/(....-..)-../\1/g' | sort | uniq --count
21 1998-08
7 1998-09
4 1998-10
54 1998-11
12 1998-12
14 1999-01
6 1999-02
6 1999-03
8 1999-05
10 1999-06
11 1999-07
16 1999-08
8 1999-09next
1 1999-10
23 1999-11
42 1999-12
33 2000-01
15 2000-02
17 2000-03
21 2000-04
30 2000-05
33 2000-06
27 2000-07
38 2000-08
29 2000-09
34 2000-10
21 2000-11
32 2000-12
36 2001-01
59 2001-02
41 2001-03
40 2001-04
29 2001-05
66 2001-06
49 2001-07
24 2001-08
31 2001-09
42 2001-10
61 2001-11
47 2001-12
17 2002-01
20 2002-02
21 2002-03
15 2002-04
8 2002-05
19 2002-06
12 2002-07
4 2002-08
15 2002-09
37 2002-10
9 2002-11
4 2002-12
12 2003-01
80 2003-02
48 2003-03
8 2003-04
11 2003-05
16 2003-06
32 2003-07
14 2003-08
13 2003-09
16 2003-10
7 2003-11
12 2003-12
28 2004-01
30 2004-02
34 2004-03
13 2004-04
19 2004-05
6 2004-06
8 2004-07
10 2004-08
20 2004-09
5 2004-10
11 2004-11
10 2004-12
41 2005-01
30 2005-02
31 2005-03
27 2005-04
59 2005-05
25 2005-06
1 2005-07
25 2005-08
21 2005-09
5 2005-10
22 2005-11
18 2005-12
23 2006-01
15 2006-02
29 2006-03
31 2006-04
13 2006-05
9 2006-06
8 2006-07
16 2006-08
21 2006-09
24 2006-10
5 2006-11
8 2006-12
7 2007-01
7 2007-02
17 2007-03
2 2007-04
9 2007-05
5 2007-06
10 2007-07
20 2007-08
8 2007-09
11 2007-10
19 2007-11
10 2007-12
31 2008-01
20 2008-02
11 2008-03
5 2008-04
2 2008-05
11 2008-06
9 2008-07
5 2008-08
7 2008-09
6 2008-10
15 2008-11
2 2008-12
10 2009-01
8 2009-02
2 2009-03
4 2009-04
3 2009-05
12 2009-06
19 2009-07
14 2009-08
11 2009-09
1 2009-10
15 2009-11
4 2009-12
2 2010-01
2 2010-02
3 2010-03
5 2010-04
1 2010-05
5 2010-07
15 2010-08
4 2010-09
11 2010-10
13 2010-11
11 2010-12
15 2011-01
1 2011-02
7 2011-03
6 2011-04
7 2011-05
9 2011-06
4 2011-07
3 2011-08
6 2011-09
3 2011-10
1 2011-11
1 2011-12
7 2012-01
1 2012-02
5 2012-03
4 2012-04
5 2012-05
2 2012-06
10 2012-07
9 2012-08
23 2012-09
5 2012-10
5 2012-11
5 2012-12
6 2013-01
3 2013-02
2 2013-03
14 2013-04
18 2013-05
5 2013-06
3 2013-07
4 2013-08
3 2013-09
2 2013-10
8 2013-11
1 2013-12
5 2014-01
9 2014-02
7 2014-03
2 2014-04
1 2014-05
11 2014-06
14 2014-07
7 2014-08
28 2014-09
12 2014-11
1 2014-12
7 2015-01
7 2015-02
5 2015-03
7 2015-04
3 2015-05
11 2015-06
22 2015-07
12 2015-08
9 2015-09
7 2015-10
20 2015-11
4 2016-01
5 2016-02
9 2016-03
Regards
Takashi Sakamoto
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2016-03-09 7:47 ` Takashi Sakamoto
@ 2016-03-09 7:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-03-09 8:40 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-03-09 13:39 ` Jaroslav Kysela
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2016-03-09 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Sakamoto; +Cc: Vinod Koul, alsa-devel
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:47:09 +0100,
Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mar 9 2016 15:17, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:16:24 +0100,
> > Vinod Koul wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
> >>> "predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
> >>> release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
>
> As a quick glance of the number of commits per month (see in the end of
> this message), alsa-lib is not so actively developed recently. (except
> for topology APIs)
>
> I think releasing every 2 months makes the release maintenance effort
> more hard than its actual advantage. It better to release alsa-lib for 2
> or more kernel release cycles.
Yes, that was the proposal in the meeting. It wasn't meant to release
every cycle.
The point is to align with the kernel release cycle so that people can
know the possible release point beforehand. The actual release can be
skipped easily if nothing happens, of course.
Takashi
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* Re: Scheduled alsa-lib release?
2016-03-09 7:52 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2016-03-09 8:40 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-03-09 13:39 ` Jaroslav Kysela
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Sakamoto @ 2016-03-09 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: Vinod Koul, alsa-devel
On Mar 9 2016 16:52, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:47:09 +0100,
> Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mar 9 2016 15:17, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:16:24 +0100,
>>> Vinod Koul wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
>>>>> "predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
>>>>> release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
>>
>> As a quick glance of the number of commits per month (see in the end of
>> this message), alsa-lib is not so actively developed recently. (except
>> for topology APIs)
>>
>> I think releasing every 2 months makes the release maintenance effort
>> more hard than its actual advantage. It better to release alsa-lib for 2
>> or more kernel release cycles.
>
> Yes, that was the proposal in the meeting. It wasn't meant to release
> every cycle.
>
> The point is to align with the kernel release cycle so that people can
> know the possible release point beforehand. The actual release can be
> skipped easily if nothing happens, of course.
To me, it doesn't mean _scheduled_ release. It's just within a policy
for releasing about an aspect of 'date'.
Anyway, I have no objections about it, as long as the cycle is not so
frequent and people are not so busy for the release maintenance.
Regards
Takashi Skamaoto
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* Re: Scheduled alsa-lib release?
2016-03-09 7:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-03-09 8:40 ` Takashi Sakamoto
@ 2016-03-09 13:39 ` Jaroslav Kysela
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jaroslav Kysela @ 2016-03-09 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Takashi Iwai, Takashi Sakamoto; +Cc: Vinod Koul, alsa-devel
Dne 9.3.2016 v 08:52 Takashi Iwai napsal(a):
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 08:47:09 +0100,
> Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mar 9 2016 15:17, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:16:24 +0100,
>>> Vinod Koul wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 05:49:19PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> in the previous meeting, there have been requests about the regular
>>>>> "predictable" release of alsa-lib. We thought of aligning with kernel
>>>>> release cycle, judging from the nature of alsa-lib.
>>
>> As a quick glance of the number of commits per month (see in the end of
>> this message), alsa-lib is not so actively developed recently. (except
>> for topology APIs)
>>
>> I think releasing every 2 months makes the release maintenance effort
>> more hard than its actual advantage. It better to release alsa-lib for 2
>> or more kernel release cycles.
>
> Yes, that was the proposal in the meeting. It wasn't meant to release
> every cycle.
>
> The point is to align with the kernel release cycle so that people can
> know the possible release point beforehand. The actual release can be
> skipped easily if nothing happens, of course.
I agree. I'll release ALSA packages in the week after 4.5 kernel release
(next week?). And I (we) can do a decision after every kernel release,
if we have enough changes (or there are any required changes to support
new kernels).
Thanks,
Jaroslav
--
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Linux Sound Maintainer; ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc.
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