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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:50:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160322095022.GA23909@e106622-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160321175112.GY2566-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 21/03/16 17:51, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:24:52PM +0000, Juri Lelli wrote:
> 
> > I think this should work, but we have to understand how do we obtain the
> > max frequency of each cluster while parsing DT. OPP bindings are
> > helpful, but AFAIK there are platforms for which firmware is responsible
> > for setting up and advertise available OPPs. I'm not sure if this
> > happens later on during the boot process. We might still be able to use
> > the clock-frequency property in this case, but that might need changing
> > again if the top OPP gets removed/changed.
> 
> > OTH, we might simply want to say that capacity values are to be obtained
> > once the platform is "stable" (no additional changes to configuration,
> > OPPs, etc.). But this is maybe not acceptable?
> 
> How about we just punt and let the cpufreq driver tell us - it can parse
> DT, use built in tables or whatever?  We could even remember the raw
> values and recalculate if it ever decides to change for some reason.
> Until cpufreq comes up we'll be stuck at whatever OPP that we're at on
> startup which may not match whatever we define the numbers relative to
> anyway.
> 

OK, I'll try and see how that can be done.

Thanks,

- Juri

> > Also, I fear that for variants of a particular implementation we will
> > still have to redo the profiling anyway (like we alreaady did for Juno
> > and Juno-r2 for example).
> 
> This sometimes happens either through binning or through board design
> decisions rather than through new silicon so we might be able to reuse.


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From: juri.lelli@arm.com (Juri Lelli)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:50:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160322095022.GA23909@e106622-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160321175112.GY2566@sirena.org.uk>

On 21/03/16 17:51, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:24:52PM +0000, Juri Lelli wrote:
> 
> > I think this should work, but we have to understand how do we obtain the
> > max frequency of each cluster while parsing DT. OPP bindings are
> > helpful, but AFAIK there are platforms for which firmware is responsible
> > for setting up and advertise available OPPs. I'm not sure if this
> > happens later on during the boot process. We might still be able to use
> > the clock-frequency property in this case, but that might need changing
> > again if the top OPP gets removed/changed.
> 
> > OTH, we might simply want to say that capacity values are to be obtained
> > once the platform is "stable" (no additional changes to configuration,
> > OPPs, etc.). But this is maybe not acceptable?
> 
> How about we just punt and let the cpufreq driver tell us - it can parse
> DT, use built in tables or whatever?  We could even remember the raw
> values and recalculate if it ever decides to change for some reason.
> Until cpufreq comes up we'll be stuck at whatever OPP that we're at on
> startup which may not match whatever we define the numbers relative to
> anyway.
> 

OK, I'll try and see how that can be done.

Thanks,

- Juri

> > Also, I fear that for variants of a particular implementation we will
> > still have to redo the profiling anyway (like we alreaady did for Juno
> > and Juno-r2 for example).
> 
> This sometimes happens either through binning or through board design
> decisions rather than through new silicon so we might be able to reuse.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Sai Gurrappadi <sgurrappadi@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LAK <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Gregory CLEMENT <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	pboonstoppel@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:50:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160322095022.GA23909@e106622-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160321175112.GY2566@sirena.org.uk>

On 21/03/16 17:51, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 05:24:52PM +0000, Juri Lelli wrote:
> 
> > I think this should work, but we have to understand how do we obtain the
> > max frequency of each cluster while parsing DT. OPP bindings are
> > helpful, but AFAIK there are platforms for which firmware is responsible
> > for setting up and advertise available OPPs. I'm not sure if this
> > happens later on during the boot process. We might still be able to use
> > the clock-frequency property in this case, but that might need changing
> > again if the top OPP gets removed/changed.
> 
> > OTH, we might simply want to say that capacity values are to be obtained
> > once the platform is "stable" (no additional changes to configuration,
> > OPPs, etc.). But this is maybe not acceptable?
> 
> How about we just punt and let the cpufreq driver tell us - it can parse
> DT, use built in tables or whatever?  We could even remember the raw
> values and recalculate if it ever decides to change for some reason.
> Until cpufreq comes up we'll be stuck at whatever OPP that we're at on
> startup which may not match whatever we define the numbers relative to
> anyway.
> 

OK, I'll try and see how that can be done.

Thanks,

- Juri

> > Also, I fear that for variants of a particular implementation we will
> > still have to redo the profiling anyway (like we alreaady did for Juno
> > and Juno-r2 for example).
> 
> This sometimes happens either through binning or through board design
> decisions rather than through new silicon so we might be able to reuse.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-22  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-18 14:24 [PATCH v4 0/8] CPUs capacity information for heterogeneous systems Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] ARM: initialize cpu_scale to its default Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] Documentation: arm: define DT cpu capacity bindings Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 17:49   ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-18 17:49     ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-18 17:49     ` Sai Gurrappadi
     [not found]     ` <56EC3F9E.4050209-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-21 10:53       ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 10:53         ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 10:53         ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 11:09         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-21 11:09           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-21 11:09           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-21 11:49           ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 11:49             ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 11:49             ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 12:12             ` Mark Brown
2016-03-21 12:12               ` Mark Brown
2016-03-21 12:12               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <20160321121210.GQ2566-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-21 17:24                 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 17:24                   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 17:24                   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 17:51                   ` Mark Brown
2016-03-21 17:51                     ` Mark Brown
2016-03-21 17:51                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20160321175112.GY2566-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-22  9:50                       ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2016-03-22  9:50                         ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-22  9:50                         ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 19:20         ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-21 19:20           ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-21 19:20           ` Sai Gurrappadi
2016-03-20  1:15   ` Rob Herring
2016-03-20  1:15     ` Rob Herring
2016-03-21 11:39     ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-21 11:39       ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] arm: parse cpu capacity from DT Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] arm, dts: add TC2 cpu capacity information Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] arm64: parse cpu capacity from DT Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] arm64, dts: add Juno cpu capacity information Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] arm: add sysfs cpu_capacity attribute Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] arm64: " Juri Lelli
2016-03-18 14:24   ` Juri Lelli

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