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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Changlong Xie <xiecl.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 2/3] quorum: implement bdrv_add_child() and bdrv_del_child()
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:31:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160331123105.GK2265@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w51k2kiq3fm.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com>

* Alberto Garcia (berto@igalia.com) wrote:
> On Wed 30 Mar 2016 05:07:15 PM CEST, Max Reitz wrote:
> >> I also have another (not directly related) question: why not simply
> >> use the node name when removing children? I understood that the idea
> >> was that it's possible to have the same node attached twice to the
> >> same Quorum, but can you actually do that? And what's the use case?
> >
> > What I like about using the child role name is that it automatically
> > prevents you from specifying a node that is not a child of the given
> > parent.
> 
> Right, but checking if a node is not a child and returning an error is
> very simple. And it doesn't require the user to keep track of the node
> name *and* the child role name.
> 
> Unless I'm forgetting something this would be the first time we expose
> the child role name in the API, that's why I'm wondering if it's
> something worth doing.
> 
> > Which makes me notice that it might be a good idea to require the user
> > to specify the child's role when adding a new child. In this version
> > of this series (where only quorum is supported), the children are just
> > inserted in numerical order (first free slot is taken first), but
> > maybe the user wants to insert them in a different order.
> 
> For the Quorum case it totally makes sense to let the user choose the
> position of the new child.
> 
> But for creating a Quorum array in the first place we don't require
> that, the order is the one that the user provides, and the user does not
> need to know about the child role names at that point.

Actually in my setup I only add the local block device using the normal command
line, and use drive_add even at startup.  It solves a lot of the ordering
problems with getting COLO booted.

Dave

> 
> > And the "filling up quorum's children" topic then makes me notice that
> > (x-)blockdev-change should probably be transaction-able (so you can
> > restructure the whole BDS graph in a single transaction), but that's
> > something we can care about later on.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> Berto
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-31 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-10  2:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 0/3] qapi: child add/delete support Changlong Xie
2016-03-10  2:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 1/3] Add new block driver interface to add/delete a BDS's child Changlong Xie
2016-03-10 14:57   ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-11  1:17     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-10  2:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 2/3] quorum: implement bdrv_add_child() and bdrv_del_child() Changlong Xie
2016-03-11 12:21   ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-14  1:33     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-14  6:02     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-16 12:38       ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-17  1:22         ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17  9:10           ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-17  9:44             ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17  9:48               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-17  9:56                 ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17  9:59                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-17 10:07                   ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-17 10:23                     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-17 11:25                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-18  2:56                         ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-18 10:48                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-29 15:38                   ` Max Reitz
2016-03-29 15:44                     ` Eric Blake
2016-03-29 15:50                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-29 15:52                         ` Max Reitz
2016-03-29 15:54                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-29 15:59                             ` Max Reitz
2016-03-29 16:03                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-29 16:09                                 ` Max Reitz
2016-03-29 17:33                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-29 15:51                       ` Max Reitz
2016-03-30 11:39                         ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-30 15:07                           ` Max Reitz
2016-03-31 11:42                             ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-31 12:31                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2016-04-01 15:20                               ` Max Reitz
2016-04-06  7:48                                 ` Wen Congyang
2016-04-11  5:18                             ` Changlong Xie
2016-04-12 16:21                               ` Max Reitz
2016-03-16  2:10     ` Wen Congyang
2016-03-10  2:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 3/3] qmp: add monitor command to add/remove a child Changlong Xie
2016-03-11 12:48   ` Alberto Garcia
2016-03-28  6:09   ` Changlong Xie

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