From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo-D+Gtc/HYRWM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Greg KH
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] firmware: qemu_fw_cfg.c: hold ACPI global lock during device access
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:54:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405114156-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160317133340.GJ12454-h65ZQ0r4j6KKUezXOiBB2eW1CriLhL8O@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:33:40AM -0400, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:30:50PM -0500, Gabriel Somlo wrote:
> > > Allowing for the future possibility of implementing AML-based
> > > (i.e., firmware-triggered) access to the QEMU fw_cfg device,
> > > acquire the global ACPI lock when accessing the device on behalf
> > > of the guest-side sysfs driver, to prevent any potential race
> > > conditions.
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Gabriel Somlo <somlo-D+Gtc/HYRWM@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > So this patch makes sense of course.
> >
> >
> > Given the recent discussion on QEMU mailing list,
> > I think there is an additional patch that we need:
> > filter the files exposed to userspace by "opt/" prefix.
> >
> > This will ensure that we can change all other fw cfg files
> > at will without breaking guest scripts.
> >
> > Gabriel, could you code this up? Or do you see a
> > pressing need to expose internal QEMU registers to
> > userspace?
>
> I'd be happy to update the docs to (better) emphasisze that:
Well my experience shows people do not read the docs.
And really, good interfaces should be self-documenting.
> 1 the only way to guarantee any particular item shows up in
> guest-side fw_cfg sysfs is manually putting it there via the
> host-side command line
>
> - and BTW, unless you prefixed it with "opt/..." you
> are off the reservation, and it might collide with
> qemu->firmware communications.
>
> 2 anything one didn't place there themselves via the qemu
> command line is informational only, might change or go away
> at any time, and developing expectations about it based on
> past observation is done at the observer's own risk.
>
> While I don't *personally* care about items outside of "opt/", I'm a bit
> uncomfortable actively *hiding* them from userspace -- I could easily
> imagine the ability to see (read-only) fw_cfg content from userspace
> being a handy debugging/troubleshooting tool. It's back to separating
> between mechanism and policy: hiding things from userspace would IMHO
> fall into the policy enforcement side of things, and I'm still unclear
> about the failure scenario we'd be trying to prevent, and its likelihood.
>
> Thanks,
> --Gabriel
Mostly, we can change internal qemu/firmware interfaces
as long as we verify that firmware that ships with QEMU
does not rely on them.
I'm fine with exposing stuff for debugging purposes
but I would like a cleaner separation between the two,
and self-documenting interfaces.
How about:
- place everything that is under "opt/" in e.g. "supported"
directory, or at root
- place everything that is not under "opt/" in e.g. "unsupported"
directory
Abstracting hardware is what OS is all about, this is not policy.
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Changes since v1:
> > > - no more "#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI"; instead we proceed if
> > > acpi_acquire_global_lock() returns either OK or NOT_CONFIGURED,
> > > and only throw a warning/error message otherwise.
> > >
> > > - didn't get any *negative* feedback from the QEMU crowd, so
> > > this is now a bona-fide "please apply this", rather than just
> > > an RFC :)
> > >
> > > - tested on ACPI-enabled x86_64, and acpi_less ARM (32 and 64 bit)
> > > QEMU VMs (I don't have handy access to an ACPI-enabled ARM VM)
> > >
> > > Thanks much,
> > > --Gabriel
> > >
> > > drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > index 7bba76c..a44dc32 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > @@ -77,12 +77,28 @@ static inline u16 fw_cfg_sel_endianness(u16 key)
> > > static inline void fw_cfg_read_blob(u16 key,
> > > void *buf, loff_t pos, size_t count)
> > > {
> > > + u32 glk;
> > > + acpi_status status;
> > > +
> > > + /* If we have ACPI, ensure mutual exclusion against any potential
> > > + * device access by the firmware, e.g. via AML methods:
> > > + */
> > > + status = acpi_acquire_global_lock(ACPI_WAIT_FOREVER, &glk);
> > > + if (ACPI_FAILURE(status) && status != AE_NOT_CONFIGURED) {
> > > + /* Should never get here */
> > > + WARN(1, "fw_cfg_read_blob: Failed to lock ACPI!\n");
> > > + memset(buf, 0, count);
> > > + return;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > mutex_lock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > > iowrite16(fw_cfg_sel_endianness(key), fw_cfg_reg_ctrl);
> > > while (pos-- > 0)
> > > ioread8(fw_cfg_reg_data);
> > > ioread8_rep(fw_cfg_reg_data, buf, count);
> > > mutex_unlock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > > +
> > > + acpi_release_global_lock(glk);
> > > }
> > >
> > > /* clean up fw_cfg device i/o */
> > > --
> > > 2.4.3
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
robh+dt@kernel.org, pawel.moll@arm.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk, galak@codeaurora.org,
arnd@arndb.de, lersek@redhat.com, ralf@linux-mips.org,
rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk, eric@anholt.net,
hanjun.guo@linaro.org, zajec5@gmail.com, sudeep.holla@arm.com,
agross@codeaurora.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] firmware: qemu_fw_cfg.c: hold ACPI global lock during device access
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:54:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405114156-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160317133340.GJ12454@HEDWIG.INI.CMU.EDU>
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:33:40AM -0400, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:30:50PM -0500, Gabriel Somlo wrote:
> > > Allowing for the future possibility of implementing AML-based
> > > (i.e., firmware-triggered) access to the QEMU fw_cfg device,
> > > acquire the global ACPI lock when accessing the device on behalf
> > > of the guest-side sysfs driver, to prevent any potential race
> > > conditions.
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Gabriel Somlo <somlo@cmu.edu>
> >
> > So this patch makes sense of course.
> >
> >
> > Given the recent discussion on QEMU mailing list,
> > I think there is an additional patch that we need:
> > filter the files exposed to userspace by "opt/" prefix.
> >
> > This will ensure that we can change all other fw cfg files
> > at will without breaking guest scripts.
> >
> > Gabriel, could you code this up? Or do you see a
> > pressing need to expose internal QEMU registers to
> > userspace?
>
> I'd be happy to update the docs to (better) emphasisze that:
Well my experience shows people do not read the docs.
And really, good interfaces should be self-documenting.
> 1 the only way to guarantee any particular item shows up in
> guest-side fw_cfg sysfs is manually putting it there via the
> host-side command line
>
> - and BTW, unless you prefixed it with "opt/..." you
> are off the reservation, and it might collide with
> qemu->firmware communications.
>
> 2 anything one didn't place there themselves via the qemu
> command line is informational only, might change or go away
> at any time, and developing expectations about it based on
> past observation is done at the observer's own risk.
>
> While I don't *personally* care about items outside of "opt/", I'm a bit
> uncomfortable actively *hiding* them from userspace -- I could easily
> imagine the ability to see (read-only) fw_cfg content from userspace
> being a handy debugging/troubleshooting tool. It's back to separating
> between mechanism and policy: hiding things from userspace would IMHO
> fall into the policy enforcement side of things, and I'm still unclear
> about the failure scenario we'd be trying to prevent, and its likelihood.
>
> Thanks,
> --Gabriel
Mostly, we can change internal qemu/firmware interfaces
as long as we verify that firmware that ships with QEMU
does not rely on them.
I'm fine with exposing stuff for debugging purposes
but I would like a cleaner separation between the two,
and self-documenting interfaces.
How about:
- place everything that is under "opt/" in e.g. "supported"
directory, or at root
- place everything that is not under "opt/" in e.g. "unsupported"
directory
Abstracting hardware is what OS is all about, this is not policy.
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Changes since v1:
> > > - no more "#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI"; instead we proceed if
> > > acpi_acquire_global_lock() returns either OK or NOT_CONFIGURED,
> > > and only throw a warning/error message otherwise.
> > >
> > > - didn't get any *negative* feedback from the QEMU crowd, so
> > > this is now a bona-fide "please apply this", rather than just
> > > an RFC :)
> > >
> > > - tested on ACPI-enabled x86_64, and acpi_less ARM (32 and 64 bit)
> > > QEMU VMs (I don't have handy access to an ACPI-enabled ARM VM)
> > >
> > > Thanks much,
> > > --Gabriel
> > >
> > > drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > index 7bba76c..a44dc32 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > @@ -77,12 +77,28 @@ static inline u16 fw_cfg_sel_endianness(u16 key)
> > > static inline void fw_cfg_read_blob(u16 key,
> > > void *buf, loff_t pos, size_t count)
> > > {
> > > + u32 glk;
> > > + acpi_status status;
> > > +
> > > + /* If we have ACPI, ensure mutual exclusion against any potential
> > > + * device access by the firmware, e.g. via AML methods:
> > > + */
> > > + status = acpi_acquire_global_lock(ACPI_WAIT_FOREVER, &glk);
> > > + if (ACPI_FAILURE(status) && status != AE_NOT_CONFIGURED) {
> > > + /* Should never get here */
> > > + WARN(1, "fw_cfg_read_blob: Failed to lock ACPI!\n");
> > > + memset(buf, 0, count);
> > > + return;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > mutex_lock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > > iowrite16(fw_cfg_sel_endianness(key), fw_cfg_reg_ctrl);
> > > while (pos-- > 0)
> > > ioread8(fw_cfg_reg_data);
> > > ioread8_rep(fw_cfg_reg_data, buf, count);
> > > mutex_unlock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > > +
> > > + acpi_release_global_lock(glk);
> > > }
> > >
> > > /* clean up fw_cfg device i/o */
> > > --
> > > 2.4.3
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
matt@codeblueprint.co.uk, stefanha@gmail.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eric@anholt.net, kraxel@redhat.com,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, agross@codeaurora.org,
pawel.moll@arm.com, zajec5@gmail.com,
rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk, lersek@redhat.com,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ehabkost@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de,
ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk, galak@codeaurora.org,
leif.lindholm@linaro.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, luto@amacapital.net,
hanjun.guo@linaro.org, sudeep.holla@arm.com, imammedo@redhat.com,
revol@free.fr
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] firmware: qemu_fw_cfg.c: hold ACPI global lock during device access
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:54:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405114156-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160317133340.GJ12454@HEDWIG.INI.CMU.EDU>
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:33:40AM -0400, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:30:50PM -0500, Gabriel Somlo wrote:
> > > Allowing for the future possibility of implementing AML-based
> > > (i.e., firmware-triggered) access to the QEMU fw_cfg device,
> > > acquire the global ACPI lock when accessing the device on behalf
> > > of the guest-side sysfs driver, to prevent any potential race
> > > conditions.
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Gabriel Somlo <somlo@cmu.edu>
> >
> > So this patch makes sense of course.
> >
> >
> > Given the recent discussion on QEMU mailing list,
> > I think there is an additional patch that we need:
> > filter the files exposed to userspace by "opt/" prefix.
> >
> > This will ensure that we can change all other fw cfg files
> > at will without breaking guest scripts.
> >
> > Gabriel, could you code this up? Or do you see a
> > pressing need to expose internal QEMU registers to
> > userspace?
>
> I'd be happy to update the docs to (better) emphasisze that:
Well my experience shows people do not read the docs.
And really, good interfaces should be self-documenting.
> 1 the only way to guarantee any particular item shows up in
> guest-side fw_cfg sysfs is manually putting it there via the
> host-side command line
>
> - and BTW, unless you prefixed it with "opt/..." you
> are off the reservation, and it might collide with
> qemu->firmware communications.
>
> 2 anything one didn't place there themselves via the qemu
> command line is informational only, might change or go away
> at any time, and developing expectations about it based on
> past observation is done at the observer's own risk.
>
> While I don't *personally* care about items outside of "opt/", I'm a bit
> uncomfortable actively *hiding* them from userspace -- I could easily
> imagine the ability to see (read-only) fw_cfg content from userspace
> being a handy debugging/troubleshooting tool. It's back to separating
> between mechanism and policy: hiding things from userspace would IMHO
> fall into the policy enforcement side of things, and I'm still unclear
> about the failure scenario we'd be trying to prevent, and its likelihood.
>
> Thanks,
> --Gabriel
Mostly, we can change internal qemu/firmware interfaces
as long as we verify that firmware that ships with QEMU
does not rely on them.
I'm fine with exposing stuff for debugging purposes
but I would like a cleaner separation between the two,
and self-documenting interfaces.
How about:
- place everything that is under "opt/" in e.g. "supported"
directory, or at root
- place everything that is not under "opt/" in e.g. "unsupported"
directory
Abstracting hardware is what OS is all about, this is not policy.
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Changes since v1:
> > > - no more "#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI"; instead we proceed if
> > > acpi_acquire_global_lock() returns either OK or NOT_CONFIGURED,
> > > and only throw a warning/error message otherwise.
> > >
> > > - didn't get any *negative* feedback from the QEMU crowd, so
> > > this is now a bona-fide "please apply this", rather than just
> > > an RFC :)
> > >
> > > - tested on ACPI-enabled x86_64, and acpi_less ARM (32 and 64 bit)
> > > QEMU VMs (I don't have handy access to an ACPI-enabled ARM VM)
> > >
> > > Thanks much,
> > > --Gabriel
> > >
> > > drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > index 7bba76c..a44dc32 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > > @@ -77,12 +77,28 @@ static inline u16 fw_cfg_sel_endianness(u16 key)
> > > static inline void fw_cfg_read_blob(u16 key,
> > > void *buf, loff_t pos, size_t count)
> > > {
> > > + u32 glk;
> > > + acpi_status status;
> > > +
> > > + /* If we have ACPI, ensure mutual exclusion against any potential
> > > + * device access by the firmware, e.g. via AML methods:
> > > + */
> > > + status = acpi_acquire_global_lock(ACPI_WAIT_FOREVER, &glk);
> > > + if (ACPI_FAILURE(status) && status != AE_NOT_CONFIGURED) {
> > > + /* Should never get here */
> > > + WARN(1, "fw_cfg_read_blob: Failed to lock ACPI!\n");
> > > + memset(buf, 0, count);
> > > + return;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > mutex_lock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > > iowrite16(fw_cfg_sel_endianness(key), fw_cfg_reg_ctrl);
> > > while (pos-- > 0)
> > > ioread8(fw_cfg_reg_data);
> > > ioread8_rep(fw_cfg_reg_data, buf, count);
> > > mutex_unlock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > > +
> > > + acpi_release_global_lock(glk);
> > > }
> > >
> > > /* clean up fw_cfg device i/o */
> > > --
> > > 2.4.3
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2016-03-08 18:30 [PATCH v2] firmware: qemu_fw_cfg.c: hold ACPI global lock during device access Gabriel Somlo
2016-03-08 18:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel Somlo
2016-03-08 18:30 ` Gabriel Somlo
2016-03-09 9:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 9:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20160308183050.GJ2049-h65ZQ0r4j6KKUezXOiBB2eW1CriLhL8O@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-16 16:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 16:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2016-03-17 13:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 13:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 13:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 13:33 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-03-17 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-03-17 13:33 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
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2016-03-17 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-05 8:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
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2016-04-05 8:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 13:13 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-04-11 13:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-04-11 13:13 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-04-11 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-11 13:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
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2016-04-03 12:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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