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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers
	<mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney"
	<paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Turner <commonly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org>,
	Chris Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] restartable sequences v2: fast user-space percpu critical sections
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:53:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160407155312.GA3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU5ZL6Jajc=9up-j86vY_Xtt-gTFjdQE0sB0d=d-CJZ6A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 08:44:38AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 07:35:26AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> What I meant was: rather than shoving individual values into the TLABI
> >> thing, shove in a pointer:
> >>
> >> struct commit_info {
> >>   u64 post_commit_rip;
> >>   u32 cpu;
> >>   u64 *event;
> >>   // whatever else;
> >> };
> >>
> >> and then put a commit_info* in TLABI.
> >>
> >> This would save some bytes in the TLABI structure.
> >
> > But would cost us extra indirections. The whole point was getting this
> > stuff at a constant offset from the TLS segment register.
> 
> I don't think the extra indirections would matter much.  The kernel
> would have to chase the pointer, but only in the very rare case where
> it resumes userspace during a commit or on the immediately following
> instruction.

Its about userspace finding these values, not the kernel.

> At the very least, post_commit_rip and the abort address (which I
> forgot about) could both live in a static structure,

Paul keeps the abort address in rcx.

> and shoving a
> pointer to *that* into TLABI space is one store instead of two.

> > Ah, so what happens if the signal happens before the commit but after
> > the load of the seqcount?
> >
> > Then, even if the signal motifies the count, we'll not observe.
> >
> 
> Where exactly?
> 
> In my scheme, nothing except the kernel ever loads the seqcount.  The
> user code generates a fresh value, writes it to memory, and then, just
> before commit, writes that same value to the TLABI area and then
> double-checks that the value it wrote at the beginning is still there.
> 
> If the signal modifies the count, then the user code won't directly
> notice, but prepare_exit_to_usermode on the way out of the signal will
> notice that the (restored) TLABI state doesn't match the counter that
> the signal handler changed and will just to the abort address.


OK, you lost me..  commit looks like:

+       __asm__ __volatile__ goto (
+                       "movq $%l[failed], %%rcx\n"
+                       "movq $1f, %[commit_instr]\n"
+                       "cmpq %[start_value], %[current_value]\n"

If we get preempted/signaled here without the preemption/signal entry
checking for the post_commit_instr, we'll fail hard.

+                       "jnz %l[failed]\n"
+                       "movq %[to_write], (%[target])\n"
+                       "1: movq $0, %[commit_instr]\n"
+         : /* no outputs */
+         : [start_value]"d"(start_value.storage),
+           [current_value]"m"(__rseq_state),
+           [to_write]"r"(to_write),
+           [target]"r"(p),
+           [commit_instr]"m"(__rseq_state.post_commit_instr)
+         : "rcx", "memory"
+         : failed
+       );

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Turner <commonly@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] restartable sequences v2: fast user-space percpu critical sections
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:53:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160407155312.GA3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU5ZL6Jajc=9up-j86vY_Xtt-gTFjdQE0sB0d=d-CJZ6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 08:44:38AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 07:35:26AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> What I meant was: rather than shoving individual values into the TLABI
> >> thing, shove in a pointer:
> >>
> >> struct commit_info {
> >>   u64 post_commit_rip;
> >>   u32 cpu;
> >>   u64 *event;
> >>   // whatever else;
> >> };
> >>
> >> and then put a commit_info* in TLABI.
> >>
> >> This would save some bytes in the TLABI structure.
> >
> > But would cost us extra indirections. The whole point was getting this
> > stuff at a constant offset from the TLS segment register.
> 
> I don't think the extra indirections would matter much.  The kernel
> would have to chase the pointer, but only in the very rare case where
> it resumes userspace during a commit or on the immediately following
> instruction.

Its about userspace finding these values, not the kernel.

> At the very least, post_commit_rip and the abort address (which I
> forgot about) could both live in a static structure,

Paul keeps the abort address in rcx.

> and shoving a
> pointer to *that* into TLABI space is one store instead of two.

> > Ah, so what happens if the signal happens before the commit but after
> > the load of the seqcount?
> >
> > Then, even if the signal motifies the count, we'll not observe.
> >
> 
> Where exactly?
> 
> In my scheme, nothing except the kernel ever loads the seqcount.  The
> user code generates a fresh value, writes it to memory, and then, just
> before commit, writes that same value to the TLABI area and then
> double-checks that the value it wrote at the beginning is still there.
> 
> If the signal modifies the count, then the user code won't directly
> notice, but prepare_exit_to_usermode on the way out of the signal will
> notice that the (restored) TLABI state doesn't match the counter that
> the signal handler changed and will just to the abort address.


OK, you lost me..  commit looks like:

+       __asm__ __volatile__ goto (
+                       "movq $%l[failed], %%rcx\n"
+                       "movq $1f, %[commit_instr]\n"
+                       "cmpq %[start_value], %[current_value]\n"

If we get preempted/signaled here without the preemption/signal entry
checking for the post_commit_instr, we'll fail hard.

+                       "jnz %l[failed]\n"
+                       "movq %[to_write], (%[target])\n"
+                       "1: movq $0, %[commit_instr]\n"
+         : /* no outputs */
+         : [start_value]"d"(start_value.storage),
+           [current_value]"m"(__rseq_state),
+           [to_write]"r"(to_write),
+           [target]"r"(p),
+           [commit_instr]"m"(__rseq_state.post_commit_instr)
+         : "rcx", "memory"
+         : failed
+       );

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-07 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-27 23:56 [RFC PATCH 0/3] restartable sequences v2: fast user-space percpu critical sections Paul Turner
2015-10-27 23:56 ` Paul Turner
2015-10-27 23:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] restartable sequences: user-space per-cpu " Paul Turner
     [not found]   ` <20151027235653.16059.8933.stgit-G8L5E6GV2z5XSTzz+wBt03oUN1GumTyQ7j82oEJ37pA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-19 16:38     ` Johannes Berg
2015-11-19 16:38       ` Johannes Berg
2015-12-11 12:56     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-12-11 12:56       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-10-27 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] restartable sequences: x86 ABI Paul Turner
     [not found]   ` <20151027235705.16059.63268.stgit-G8L5E6GV2z5XSTzz+wBt03oUN1GumTyQ7j82oEJ37pA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28  5:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-28  5:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20151028050314.GC11242-IIpfhp3q70xmmu7s1q4rt2t3HXsI98Cx0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28  5:19         ` Paul Turner
2015-10-28  5:19           ` Paul Turner
2015-12-11 13:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-12-11 13:30       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-10-27 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] restartable sequences: basic self-tests Paul Turner
     [not found]   ` <20151027235716.16059.47610.stgit-G8L5E6GV2z5XSTzz+wBt03oUN1GumTyQ7j82oEJ37pA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-05 20:33     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-05 20:33       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]       ` <1276514010.46061.1459888406999.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06  7:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-06  7:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <20160406074309.GE3430-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06 13:39             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-06 13:39               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <528054829.46502.1459949962537.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06 19:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-06 19:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20151027235635.16059.11630.stgit-G8L5E6GV2z5XSTzz+wBt03oUN1GumTyQ7j82oEJ37pA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-28 14:44   ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] restartable sequences v2: fast user-space percpu critical sections Dave Watson
2015-10-28 14:44     ` Dave Watson
2015-12-11 12:05   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-12-11 12:05     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <1070636085.232143.1449835536723.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11 13:39       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-12-11 13:39         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-06 15:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-07 12:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160407120254.GY3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 14:35       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-07 14:35         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrV0vcYcnBrs0axykJD=_BM28wKWVMG6bMzK8zh8R3m5fg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 15:24           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 15:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]             ` <20160407152432.GZ3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 15:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 15:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 15:44               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-07 15:44                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrU5ZL6Jajc=9up-j86vY_Xtt-gTFjdQE0sB0d=d-CJZ6A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 15:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-04-07 15:53                     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                     ` <20160407155312.GA3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 16:43                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-07 16:43                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrVGo1Di3qamxx1NAFUSN_o=-HnYRDpeVp7zrQEBwe5u-g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 20:11                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 20:11                             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                             ` <20160407201156.GC3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 22:05                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-07 22:05                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                 ` <CALCETrXVReuuGGKW6EOV7tFFaK9RbwWxYvKdpUdvU=MpDaOtsQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08  1:11                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-08  1:11                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-08  1:21                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-08  2:05                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-08  2:05                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-08 17:46                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                           ` <65466698.51122.1460137589499.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 21:16                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-08 21:16                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-08 21:25                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-08 21:25                                               ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                               ` <CA+55aFwqJmTy+Nz0k9N_2zsms51meTFMdvYYW5VHdiOq8Jjr7Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-10 14:07                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-10 14:07                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-08 11:02                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-08 11:02                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                     ` <20160408110232.GP3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 15:57                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-08 15:57                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-08  6:41                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-08  6:41                             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                             ` <20160408064136.GJ3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 15:58                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-08 15:58                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-11 21:55                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-04-11 21:55                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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