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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brenden Blanco <bblanco@plumgrid.com>,
	lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Lsf] [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] Generic page-pool recycle facility?
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:37:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160411203738.58a6adb2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160411174625.GH1845@indiana.gru.redhat.com>

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:46:25 -0300
Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@redhat.com> wrote:

> So, Jesper, please take into consideration that this pool design
> would rather be per device. Otherwise, we allow some device to write
> into another's device/driver memory.

Yes, that was my intended use.  I want to have a page-pool per device.
I actually, want to go as far as a page-pool per NIC HW RX-ring queue.

Because the other use-case for the page-pool is zero-copy RX.

The NIC HW trick is that we today can create a HW filter in the NIC
(via ethtool) and place that traffic into a separate RX queue in the
NIC.  Lets say matching NFS traffic or guest traffic. Then we can allow
RX zero-copy of these pages, into the application/guest, somehow
binding it to RX queue, e.g. introducing a "cross-domain-id" in the
page-pool page that need to match.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brenden Blanco <bblanco@plumgrid.com>,
	lsf@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Lsf] [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] Generic page-pool recycle facility?
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:37:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160411203738.58a6adb2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160411174625.GH1845@indiana.gru.redhat.com>

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:46:25 -0300
Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@redhat.com> wrote:

> So, Jesper, please take into consideration that this pool design
> would rather be per device. Otherwise, we allow some device to write
> into another's device/driver memory.

Yes, that was my intended use.  I want to have a page-pool per device.
I actually, want to go as far as a page-pool per NIC HW RX-ring queue.

Because the other use-case for the page-pool is zero-copy RX.

The NIC HW trick is that we today can create a HW filter in the NIC
(via ethtool) and place that traffic into a separate RX queue in the
NIC.  Lets say matching NFS traffic or guest traffic. Then we can allow
RX zero-copy of these pages, into the application/guest, somehow
binding it to RX queue, e.g. introducing a "cross-domain-id" in the
page-pool page that need to match.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-11 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1460034425.20949.7.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
2016-04-07 14:17 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] Generic page-pool recycle facility? Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-07 14:38   ` [Lsf-pc] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-07 15:11     ` [Lsf] " Bart Van Assche
2016-04-10 18:45       ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-11 21:41         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 22:02           ` Alexander Duyck
2016-04-11 22:02             ` Alexander Duyck
2016-04-12  6:28             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-12 15:37               ` Alexander Duyck
2016-04-12 15:37                 ` Alexander Duyck
2016-04-11 22:21           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-12  6:16             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-12 17:20               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-04-07 15:48     ` Chuck Lever
2016-04-07 16:14       ` [Lsf-pc] [Lsf] " Rik van Riel
2016-04-07 19:43         ` [Lsf] [Lsf-pc] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-07 15:18   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-07 15:18     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-09  9:11     ` [Lsf] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-09 12:34       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-11 20:23         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 21:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-11 21:27             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-07 19:48   ` Waskiewicz, PJ
2016-04-07 19:48     ` Waskiewicz, PJ
2016-04-07 20:38     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-08 16:12       ` Alexander Duyck
2016-04-11  8:58   ` [Lsf-pc] " Mel Gorman
2016-04-11 12:26     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 13:08       ` Mel Gorman
2016-04-11 16:19         ` [Lsf] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 16:19           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 16:53           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-11 19:47             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 21:14               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-11 18:07           ` Mel Gorman
2016-04-11 19:26             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 16:20         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-04-11 17:46           ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2016-04-11 17:46             ` Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
2016-04-11 18:37             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2016-04-11 18:37               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-04-11 18:53               ` Bart Van Assche

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