From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
Dmitry Monakhov <dmonlist@gmail.com>,
Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT as a hint, was: Re: [PATCH] ext4: refuse O_DIRECT opens for mode where DIO doesn't work
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:25:35 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160427022535.GI18496@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160427021649.GA30021@thunk.org>
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 10:16:49PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 01:14:51AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I've been doing an audit of our direct I/O implementations, and most
> > of them does some form of transparent fallback, including some that
> > only pretend to support O_DIRECT, but do anything special for it at all,
> > while at the same time we go through greast efforts to check a file
> > system actualy supports direct I/O, leading to nasty no-op ->direct_IO
> > implementations as we even got that abstraction wrong.
> >
> > At this point I wonder if we should simply treat O_DIRECT as a hint
> > and always allow it, and just let the file system optimize for it
> > (skip buffering, require alignment, relaxed Posix atomicy requirements)
> > if it is set.
>
> That's fine with me, but there ought to be some way for a program to
> query whether a particular file / file system is one where DIO is
> supported, and if so, what the alignment requirements would be.
Yes, that's called XFS_IOC_DIOINFO. We've been saying that this
should be promoted to the VFS for some time, though it might be
better to re-implement it with a different structure that includes
padding and a flags field....
> That
> way applications who care can get the information they need (and we
> can use it for xfstests's _require_odirect :-).
Just return EOPNOTSUPP to XFS_IOC_DIOINFO if direct io is not
supported?
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-27 2:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-24 4:27 [PATCH] ext4: refuse O_DIRECT opens for mode where DIO doesn't work Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-25 9:35 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2016-04-25 23:49 ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-26 0:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26 8:14 ` O_DIRECT as a hint, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-26 15:07 ` Mike Marshall
[not found] ` <20160426081451.GA25616-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 2:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-27 2:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20160427021649.GA30021-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 2:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2016-04-27 2:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2016-04-27 2:25 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2016-04-27 2:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27 2:27 ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27 3:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20160427032526.GC30021-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 3:37 ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27 3:37 ` Dave Chinner
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