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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Dmitry Monakhov <dmonlist@gmail.com>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT as a hint, was: Re: [PATCH] ext4: refuse O_DIRECT opens for mode where DIO doesn't work
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 23:25:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160427032526.GC30021@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160427022746.GJ18496@dastard>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:27:46PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > At this point I wonder if we should simply treat O_DIRECT as a hint
> > and always allow it, and just let the file system optimize for it
> > (skip buffering, require alignment, relaxed Posix atomicy requirements)
> > if it is set.
> 
> I thought that's how most filesystems treated it, anyway. i.e.
> anything they can't do via direct IO, they fell back to buffered IO
> to complete (e.g. for allocation or append writes, etc). Hence why I
> suggested the fallback rather than erroring out....

No, some file systems return EINVAL on the open.  In fact that's what
the _require_odirect test in xfstests relies upon....

    		     	     	      	     - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-27  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-24  4:27 [PATCH] ext4: refuse O_DIRECT opens for mode where DIO doesn't work Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-25  9:35 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2016-04-25 23:49   ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-26  0:20     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-26  8:14     ` O_DIRECT as a hint, was: " Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-26 15:07       ` Mike Marshall
     [not found]       ` <20160426081451.GA25616-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27  2:16         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-04-27  2:16           ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]           ` <20160427021649.GA30021-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27  2:22             ` Eric Sandeen
2016-04-27  2:22               ` Eric Sandeen
2016-04-27  2:25           ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27  2:27         ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27  2:27           ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27  3:25           ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
     [not found]             ` <20160427032526.GC30021-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27  3:37               ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-27  3:37                 ` Dave Chinner

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