From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
mcb30@ipxe.org, jgross@suse.com,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
jbaron@akamai.com, "ananth@in.ibm.com" <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/7] firmware: port built-in section to linker table
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:41:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160502184106.GA17329@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKkKvA5zWmr+U0TYKBBFgDL62xzQwWDOFGQMkmwKXMaMQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 11:34:33AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@suse.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:12:50AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2016-02-19 at 05:45 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >> > This ports built-in firmware to use linker tables,
> >> > this replaces the custom section solution with a
> >> > generic solution.
> >> >
> >> > This also demos the use of the .rodata (SECTION_RO)
> >> > linker tables.
> >> >
> >> > Tested with 0 built-in firmware, 1 and 2 built-in
> >> > firmwares successfully.
> >>
> >> I think we'd do better to rip this support out entirely. It just isn't
> >> needed; firmware can live in an initramfs and don't even need *any*
> >> actual running userspace support to load it from there these days, do
> >> we?
> >
> > I think this is reasonable if and only if we really don't know of anyone
> > out there not able to use initramfs. I'm happy to rip it out.
>
> The changelog for this doesn't say anything about _why_ the change is
> being made? (and what about other architectures.) Also, Chrome OS
> doesn't use an initramfs (and plenty of other things don't too). Being
> able to build monolithic kernels (e.g. Android and Brillo) with
> builtin firmware is very handy. Please don't remove built-in firmware
> support.
I second this, we can't break existing systems at all. I thought we
were going to keep built-in firmware, right Luis?
thanks,
greg k-h
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
mcb30@ipxe.org, jgross@suse.com,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
jbaron@akamai.com, "ananth@in.ibm.com" <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/7] firmware: port built-in section to linker table
Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:41:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160502184106.GA17329@kroah.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20160502184106.Y7rkl7KV98_7HEm78vkkWrgUOAhIMuIAI1-oglSfyXo@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKkKvA5zWmr+U0TYKBBFgDL62xzQwWDOFGQMkmwKXMaMQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 11:34:33AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@suse.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:12:50AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2016-02-19 at 05:45 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >> > This ports built-in firmware to use linker tables,
> >> > this replaces the custom section solution with a
> >> > generic solution.
> >> >
> >> > This also demos the use of the .rodata (SECTION_RO)
> >> > linker tables.
> >> >
> >> > Tested with 0 built-in firmware, 1 and 2 built-in
> >> > firmwares successfully.
> >>
> >> I think we'd do better to rip this support out entirely. It just isn't
> >> needed; firmware can live in an initramfs and don't even need *any*
> >> actual running userspace support to load it from there these days, do
> >> we?
> >
> > I think this is reasonable if and only if we really don't know of anyone
> > out there not able to use initramfs. I'm happy to rip it out.
>
> The changelog for this doesn't say anything about _why_ the change is
> being made? (and what about other architectures.) Also, Chrome OS
> doesn't use an initramfs (and plenty of other things don't too). Being
> able to build monolithic kernels (e.g. Android and Brillo) with
> builtin firmware is very handy. Please don't remove built-in firmware
> support.
I second this, we can't break existing systems at all. I thought we
were going to keep built-in firmware, right Luis?
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-02 18:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-19 13:45 [RFC v2 0/7] linux: add linker tables Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 1/7] sections.h: add sections header to collect all section info Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 16:23 ` Greg KH
2016-02-19 20:06 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 21:25 ` Greg KH
2016-02-19 21:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 2/7] tables.h: add linker table support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-19 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-19 21:48 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 23:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 23:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 23:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-23 23:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-23 23:36 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 23:36 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-24 0:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-24 0:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-24 0:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-24 0:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 20:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-19 21:12 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 3/7] firmware: port built-in section to linker table Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-29 10:12 ` David Woodhouse
2016-02-29 18:56 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-02 18:34 ` Kees Cook
2016-05-02 18:34 ` Kees Cook
2016-05-02 18:41 ` Greg KH [this message]
2016-05-02 18:41 ` Greg KH
2016-05-03 17:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:07 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:07 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:10 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:10 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:11 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:11 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-05-03 17:21 ` Kees Cook
2016-05-03 17:21 ` Kees Cook
2016-05-03 18:12 ` Greg KH
2016-05-03 18:12 ` Greg KH
2016-03-01 16:10 ` James Bottomley
2016-03-01 17:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-29 19:24 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-29 19:24 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 4/7] asm/sections: add a generic push_section_tbl() Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-19 21:06 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-22 2:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-26 14:56 ` Heiko Carstens
2016-05-20 19:53 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 5/7] jump_label: port __jump_table to linker tables Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 6/7] dynamic_debug: port to use " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 13:45 ` [RFC v2 7/7] kprobes: port to linker table Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 14:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-02-19 14:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-22 1:34 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-02-22 1:34 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-02-23 0:52 ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-23 0:52 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-21 23:53 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-21 23:53 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-19 20:16 ` [RFC v2 0/7] linux: add linker tables H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-19 21:19 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
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