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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
Cc: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	"Dan Allen" <dan@opendevise.io>,
	Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk>,
	"Keith Packard" <keithp@keithp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org linux-media"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Graham Whaley <graham.whaley@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 07:02:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160505070210.477a568c@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504145738.34e6bf5a@recife.lan>

On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:57:38 -0300
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com> wrote:

> Also, media documentation is not just one more documentation. It is
> the biggest one we have, and that has more changes than any other
> documentation under Documentation/DocBook:
> 
> $ git lg --since 01/01/2015 ` ls *.tmpl|grep -v media`|wc -l
> 116
> $ git lg --since 01/01/2015 ` ls *.tmpl|grep media` `find media/ -type f`|wc -l
> 179
> 
> It also is more than twice the size of the other DocBook docs:
> 
> $ wc -l $(ls *.tmpl|grep  media) `find media/ -type f`|tail -1
>   82275 total
> $ wc -l $(ls *.tmpl|grep -v media)|tail -1
>   29568 total
> 
> E. g. media corresponds to 60% of the number of patches and 73% of
> the DocBook stuff.

These numbers are not entirely representative, I have to say.  You're
ignoring the kerneldoc comments - which is what much of the "DocBook"
documents are made of, and which is the focus of much of this activity.  If
you could find a way to count those, you'd get a different picture.

But I don't think that really matters; there doesn't seem to be *that* much
disagreement here.

The media book is important; we want it to be a part of the overall kernel
documentation suite and not stuck in some DocBook ghetto.  I agree that we
should have an idea for a plausible path for *all* of our documentation.
But I'm also concerned about delaying this work yet again; we have
developers trying to push forward with improved documentation, and they've
had to wait a year for this stuff - so far.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-05 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-13 21:53 Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-14  0:57 ` Keith Packard
2016-02-14 12:27   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-14 16:27     ` Keith Packard
2016-02-17 22:14     ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-17 22:29       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-18  9:11         ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-18  9:24           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-18 10:26             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 11:23               ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-18 12:04                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 12:07                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-02-18 12:44                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 13:34                       ` Patrick Boettcher
2016-02-18 13:01             ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-18 14:39               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-16  8:25 ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-16 16:08   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-16 17:11     ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-16 19:13   ` Keith Packard
2016-02-16 19:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-17  0:01       ` Keith Packard
2016-03-03 14:03 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-03 14:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-03 14:34     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-03 15:17       ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-03 15:45         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-03-03 18:50     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-03 23:23       ` Keith Packard
2016-03-04  1:19         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04  8:29           ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-04  8:59             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-04 12:59             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04 14:09               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-06  2:29                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-06 23:29                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07  8:48                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07 12:15                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-07 12:19                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04  7:28         ` Russel Winder
2016-03-04  7:46           ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08  4:53             ` Russel Winder
     [not found]           ` <CAKeHnO6sSV1x2xh_HgbD5ddZ8rp+SVvbdjVhczhudc9iv_-UCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08  9:49             ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08 11:29               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                 ` <CAKeHnO7R25knFH07+3trdi0ZotsrEE+5ZzDZXdx33+DUW=q2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:39                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 15:39                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-09 21:27                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-10 10:25                         ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-10 15:21                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-13 15:33                             ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-08 15:12                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-12  9:18                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-04-12 15:46                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-04-18  9:49                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-27 14:28                                   ` Grant Likely
2016-05-03 14:31                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-03 15:54                                       ` Keith Packard
2016-05-04  9:34                                       ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04  9:58                                         ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 12:40                                           ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 13:41                                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 15:09                                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 13:43                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:18                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:57                                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 15:02                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 16:32                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 15:44                                                   ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:38                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 15:55                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 16:13                                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:50                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:59                                                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 17:57                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-05 13:02                                                         ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2016-05-05 13:23                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 11:23                                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 11:44                                                     ` Markus Heiser
     [not found]                                                     ` <20160506083529.31ad2fa0@recife.lan>
     [not found]                                                       ` <BAE3C147-6C21-4242-BD3C-8989C1626E10@darmarit.de>
     [not found]                                                         ` <20160506104210.12197832@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 14:27                                                           ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 14:27                                                             ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:06                                                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:23                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 15:35                                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:52                                                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:14                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:15                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 10:05                                           ` Markus Heiser
     [not found]                                             ` <20160506080304.56307066@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 16:26                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 17:06                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                                 ` <20160412105850.50e02108@recife.lan>
2016-04-18  8:10                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-18 11:16                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]               ` <CAKeHnO7_7k8Qc5Jmu_x2OzAVT4YXxW8PSe_m6QUP-8V7XxbTVw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:30                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 13:58                 ` Jani Nikula
     [not found]                   ` <CAKeHnO7e5Escm0Ndm50eFX-qUXf7Lg9n=iXvwUGjz2M4KHLMsQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-09  8:57                     ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-07  3:48   ` Jonathan Corbet

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