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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "João Paulo Rechi Vita" <jprvita@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@endlessm.com,
	"João Paulo Rechi Vita" <jprvita@endlessm.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 1/3] rfkill: Create "rfkill-airplane-mode" LED trigger
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:16:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160519071639.GB17077@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1463045572.13313.21.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On Thu 2016-05-12 11:32:52, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 09:29 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > 
> > If userspace wants to control the manually, it can do just that --
> > control it manually. There should not be a need to "override the
> > default policy".
> 
> I'm still not buying this.
> 
> In the original situation, without these patches, userspace has to have
> a list of all LEDs that are supposed to indicate airplane mode.

Well, that's situation for many LEDs.

> With this patch only (without patch 2/3), userspace can look up the
> default trigger, but then has to change it, causing the necessary
> information to be lost immediately when you actually use it - that also
> seems like a bad idea.

We should not store "what kind of led this is" in a trigger. LED
subsystem seems to use suffix of LED name to do that. So if we
standartize, lets say "::rfkill" suffix for this, it should work and
follow existing practice.

> Now, if the LED subsystem had a really good way of specifying LED
> intent, and it was widely used, and rfkill didn't already concern
> itself with the rfkill status of all devices ... yeah maybe this
> wouldn't be needed. As it stands, I still think this is the best way
> forward.

There is one -- suffix in the LED name.
									Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-19  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02 14:39 [RESEND PATCH 0/3] RFKill airplane-mode indicator João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-05-02 14:39 ` [RESEND PATCH 1/3] rfkill: Create "rfkill-airplane-mode" LED trigger João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-05-04  7:29   ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-12  9:32     ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-12  9:32       ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-19  7:16       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2016-06-09 12:43         ` Johannes Berg
2016-06-09 12:43           ` Johannes Berg
2016-06-13 15:24           ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-06-13 19:00             ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-13 19:59               ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-06-13 19:59                 ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-06-13 21:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-13 21:10                   ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-06-13 21:10                     ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-06-13 21:21                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-21  9:35                       ` Johannes Berg
2016-06-21  9:35                         ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-02 14:39 ` [RESEND PATCH 2/3] rfkill: Userspace control for airplane mode João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-05-02 14:39 ` [RESEND PATCH 3/3] rfkill: Notify userspace of airplane-mode state changes João Paulo Rechi Vita

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