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From: Dong Aisheng <dongas86@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stefan Agner <stefan@agner.ch>,
	mingo@redhat.com, "kernel@pengutronix.de" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] clk: imx: do not sleep if IRQ's are still disabled
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:04:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160607070440.GA32573@shlinux2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1606061448010.28031@nanos>

On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 03:20:03PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Dong Aisheng wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:15:00PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > Calling a function which might sleep _BEFORE_ kernel_init() is wrong. Don't
> > > try to work around such an issue by doing magic irq_disabled() checks and busy
> > > loops. Fix the call site and be done with it.
> > > 
> > 
> > IRQ chip and clocksource are also initialised before kernel_init()
> > which may call clk APIs like clk_prepare_enable().
> > We may not be able to guarantee those clocks are unsleepable.
> > 
> > e.g.
> > For IRQ chip, the arm,gic documents the optional clocks property in
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic.txt.
> > Although there seems no user currently, not sure there might be
> > a exception in the future.
> > 
> > For clocksource driver, it's quite common to call clk APIs to
> > enable and get clock rate which may also cause sleep.
> > e.g. ARM twd clock in arch/arm/kernel/smp_twd.c.
> > 
> > If we have to avoid the possible sleep caused by these clocks,
> > we may need to manually check it and change the related clocks
> > (e.g PLLs) from sleepable to busy loops.
> > But that is not a good solution and may also not stable when
> > clock varies.
> > 
> > It looks like not easy to find a generic solution for them.
> > What's your suggestion?
> 
> I think we should split the prepare callbacks up and move the handling logic
> into the core.
> 
> clk_ops.prepare()	Legacy callback
> clk_ops.prepare_hw()	Callback which writes to the hardware
> clk_ops.prepare_done()	Callback which checks whether the prepare is completed
> 
> So now the core can do:
> 
> clk_prepare()
> {
> 	/* Legacy code should go away */
> 	if (ops->prepare) {
> 	      ops->prepare();
> 	      return;
> 	}
> 
> 	if (ops->prepare_hw)
> 	      ops->prepare_hw();
> 
>    	if (!ops->prepare_done())
> 		return;
> 
> 	if (early_boot_or_suspend_resume()) {
> 		/*
> 		 * Busy loop when we can't schedule in early boot,
> 		 * suspend and resume.
> 		 */
> 		while (!ops->prepare_done())
> 		      ;
> 	} else {
> 		while (!ops->prepare_done())
> 		      usleep(clk->prepare_delay);
> 	}
> }
> 
> As a side effect that allows us to remove the gazillion of
> 
>      	    while (!hw_ready)
> 	    	  usleep();
> 
> copies all over the place and we have a single point of control where we allow
> the clocks to busy loop.
> 
> Toughts?
> 

Great, that looks like a possible solution.
If we doing this way there's one more question that
should we do it for other clk APIs hold by prepare_lock which
all may sleep too in theory?
e.g. clk_{set|get}_rate/clk_{set|get}_parent. (possible more)
(clk_recalc_rate/clk_round_rate may also need be considered due to
it may be called within above function.)

And it seems many exist platforms doing that work in
CLK_OF_DECLARE init function in time_init().
e.g.
drivers/clk/imx/clk-imx6ul.c
drivers/clk/rockchip/clk-rk3188.c
drivers/clk/ti/clk-44xx.c
...

Then it may need introduce a lot changes and increase many new core APIs.
Is that a problem?

> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx

Regards
Dong Aisheng

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: dongas86@gmail.com (Dong Aisheng)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] clk: imx: do not sleep if IRQ's are still disabled
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:04:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160607070440.GA32573@shlinux2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1606061448010.28031@nanos>

On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 03:20:03PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Dong Aisheng wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:15:00PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > Calling a function which might sleep _BEFORE_ kernel_init() is wrong. Don't
> > > try to work around such an issue by doing magic irq_disabled() checks and busy
> > > loops. Fix the call site and be done with it.
> > > 
> > 
> > IRQ chip and clocksource are also initialised before kernel_init()
> > which may call clk APIs like clk_prepare_enable().
> > We may not be able to guarantee those clocks are unsleepable.
> > 
> > e.g.
> > For IRQ chip, the arm,gic documents the optional clocks property in
> > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/arm,gic.txt.
> > Although there seems no user currently, not sure there might be
> > a exception in the future.
> > 
> > For clocksource driver, it's quite common to call clk APIs to
> > enable and get clock rate which may also cause sleep.
> > e.g. ARM twd clock in arch/arm/kernel/smp_twd.c.
> > 
> > If we have to avoid the possible sleep caused by these clocks,
> > we may need to manually check it and change the related clocks
> > (e.g PLLs) from sleepable to busy loops.
> > But that is not a good solution and may also not stable when
> > clock varies.
> > 
> > It looks like not easy to find a generic solution for them.
> > What's your suggestion?
> 
> I think we should split the prepare callbacks up and move the handling logic
> into the core.
> 
> clk_ops.prepare()	Legacy callback
> clk_ops.prepare_hw()	Callback which writes to the hardware
> clk_ops.prepare_done()	Callback which checks whether the prepare is completed
> 
> So now the core can do:
> 
> clk_prepare()
> {
> 	/* Legacy code should go away */
> 	if (ops->prepare) {
> 	      ops->prepare();
> 	      return;
> 	}
> 
> 	if (ops->prepare_hw)
> 	      ops->prepare_hw();
> 
>    	if (!ops->prepare_done())
> 		return;
> 
> 	if (early_boot_or_suspend_resume()) {
> 		/*
> 		 * Busy loop when we can't schedule in early boot,
> 		 * suspend and resume.
> 		 */
> 		while (!ops->prepare_done())
> 		      ;
> 	} else {
> 		while (!ops->prepare_done())
> 		      usleep(clk->prepare_delay);
> 	}
> }
> 
> As a side effect that allows us to remove the gazillion of
> 
>      	    while (!hw_ready)
> 	    	  usleep();
> 
> copies all over the place and we have a single point of control where we allow
> the clocks to busy loop.
> 
> Toughts?
> 

Great, that looks like a possible solution.
If we doing this way there's one more question that
should we do it for other clk APIs hold by prepare_lock which
all may sleep too in theory?
e.g. clk_{set|get}_rate/clk_{set|get}_parent. (possible more)
(clk_recalc_rate/clk_round_rate may also need be considered due to
it may be called within above function.)

And it seems many exist platforms doing that work in
CLK_OF_DECLARE init function in time_init().
e.g.
drivers/clk/imx/clk-imx6ul.c
drivers/clk/rockchip/clk-rk3188.c
drivers/clk/ti/clk-44xx.c
...

Then it may need introduce a lot changes and increase many new core APIs.
Is that a problem?

> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx

Regards
Dong Aisheng

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-29 22:49 [PATCH 1/2] clk: imx: do not sleep if IRQ's are still disabled Stefan Agner
2016-01-29 22:49 ` Stefan Agner
2016-01-29 22:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: imx: return correct frequency for Ethernet PLL Stefan Agner
2016-01-29 22:49   ` Stefan Agner
2016-01-29 23:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: imx: do not sleep if IRQ's are still disabled Joshua Clayton
2016-01-29 23:35   ` Joshua Clayton
2016-01-30  1:16 ` Stephen Boyd
2016-01-30  1:16   ` Stephen Boyd
2016-04-26 17:04   ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-26 17:04     ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-16  1:00 ` Stephen Boyd
2016-04-16  1:00   ` Stephen Boyd
2016-04-18  1:58   ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-18  1:58     ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-21  3:45 ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-21  3:45   ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-26  1:23   ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-26  1:23     ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-26  5:51     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-26  5:51       ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-26  9:24       ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-26  9:24         ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-26  9:31       ` Lucas Stach
2016-04-26  9:31         ` Lucas Stach
2016-04-26 11:16         ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-26 11:16           ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-26 11:27           ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-26 11:27             ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  1:58             ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-27  1:58               ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-27  2:45               ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  2:45                 ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  2:56                 ` Fabio Estevam
2016-04-27  2:56                   ` Fabio Estevam
2016-04-27  7:28                   ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-27  7:28                     ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-27  8:53                     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  8:53                       ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  2:57               ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  2:57                 ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  7:24                 ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-27  7:24                   ` Shawn Guo
2016-04-27  7:26                   ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-27  7:26                     ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-27  8:48                   ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  8:48                     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  7:34                 ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-27  7:34                   ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-27  8:57                   ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27  8:57                     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-27 10:15                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-27 10:15                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-29  9:45                   ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] clk: imx7d: move clk setting out of imx7d_clocks_init Dong Aisheng
2016-04-29  9:45                     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-29  9:55                     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-29  9:55                       ` Dong Aisheng
2016-04-29 12:31                       ` Lucas Stach
2016-04-29 12:31                         ` Lucas Stach
2016-04-30  2:04                     ` Stefan Agner
2016-04-30  2:04                       ` Stefan Agner
2016-06-02 15:19                       ` Dong Aisheng
2016-06-02 15:19                         ` Dong Aisheng
2016-05-25 21:54                   ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: imx: do not sleep if IRQ's are still disabled Stefan Agner
2016-05-25 21:54                     ` Stefan Agner
2016-06-02 14:59                   ` Dong Aisheng
2016-06-02 14:59                     ` Dong Aisheng
2016-06-06 13:20                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-06 13:20                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-07  7:04                       ` Dong Aisheng [this message]
2016-06-07  7:04                         ` Dong Aisheng
2016-06-09 20:08                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-09 20:08                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-09 22:14                           ` Stefan Agner
2016-06-09 22:14                             ` Stefan Agner
2016-06-09 22:55                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-09 22:55                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-12 12:24                           ` Dong Aisheng
2016-06-12 12:24                             ` Dong Aisheng

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