From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Jean-Francois Moine <moinejf@free.fr>
Cc: "Ondřej Jirman" <megous@megous.com>,
"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
dev@linux-sunxi.org,
"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Emilio López" <emilio@elopez.com.ar>,
"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/14] ARM: sun8i: clk: Add clk-factor rate application method
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160721095108.GJ5993@lukather> (raw)
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 03:27:56PM +0200, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:38:54 +0200
> Ondřej Jirman <megous@megous.com> wrote:
>
> > > If so, then yes, trying to switch to the 24MHz oscillator before
> > > applying the factors, and then switching back when the PLL is stable
> > > would be a nice solution.
> > >
> > > I just checked, and all the SoCs we've had so far have that
> > > possibility, so if it works, for now, I'd like to stick to that.
> >
> > It would need to be tested. U-boot does the change only once, while the
> > kernel would be doing it all the time and between various frequencies
> > and PLL settings. So the issues may show up with this solution too.
>
> I don't think this is a good idea: the CPU clock may be changed at any
> time with the CPUFreq governor. I don't see the system moving from
> 1008MHz to 24MHz and then to 1200MHz when some computation is needed!
It wouldn't happen that often. The sampling rate for the governor is
1000 times the latency, so, at most, 0.1% of the time would be spent
at 24MHz.
And if you're really concerned about performances, you won't enable
cpufreq anyway.
Maxime
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From: maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com (Maxime Ripard)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 06/14] ARM: sun8i: clk: Add clk-factor rate application method
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160721095108.GJ5993@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160715152756.db7375a7109fed18c2fbf43a@free.fr>
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 03:27:56PM +0200, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:38:54 +0200
> Ond?ej Jirman <megous@megous.com> wrote:
>
> > > If so, then yes, trying to switch to the 24MHz oscillator before
> > > applying the factors, and then switching back when the PLL is stable
> > > would be a nice solution.
> > >
> > > I just checked, and all the SoCs we've had so far have that
> > > possibility, so if it works, for now, I'd like to stick to that.
> >
> > It would need to be tested. U-boot does the change only once, while the
> > kernel would be doing it all the time and between various frequencies
> > and PLL settings. So the issues may show up with this solution too.
>
> I don't think this is a good idea: the CPU clock may be changed at any
> time with the CPUFreq governor. I don't see the system moving from
> 1008MHz to 24MHz and then to 1200MHz when some computation is needed!
It wouldn't happen that often. The sampling rate for the governor is
1000 times the latency, so, at most, 0.1% of the time would be spent
at 24MHz.
And if you're really concerned about performances, you won't enable
cpufreq anyway.
Maxime
--
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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To: Jean-Francois Moine <moinejf-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Ondřej Jirman" <megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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dev-3kdeTeqwOZ9EV1b7eY7vFQ@public.gmane.org,
"Michael Turquette"
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"open list"
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
"Emilio López" <emilio-0Z03zUJReD5OxF6Tv1QG9Q@public.gmane.org>,
"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
"open list:COMMON CLK FRAMEWORK"
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linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/14] ARM: sun8i: clk: Add clk-factor rate application method
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160721095108.GJ5993@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160715152756.db7375a7109fed18c2fbf43a-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 03:27:56PM +0200, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:38:54 +0200
> Ondřej Jirman <megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > > If so, then yes, trying to switch to the 24MHz oscillator before
> > > applying the factors, and then switching back when the PLL is stable
> > > would be a nice solution.
> > >
> > > I just checked, and all the SoCs we've had so far have that
> > > possibility, so if it works, for now, I'd like to stick to that.
> >
> > It would need to be tested. U-boot does the change only once, while the
> > kernel would be doing it all the time and between various frequencies
> > and PLL settings. So the issues may show up with this solution too.
>
> I don't think this is a good idea: the CPU clock may be changed at any
> time with the CPUFreq governor. I don't see the system moving from
> 1008MHz to 24MHz and then to 1200MHz when some computation is needed!
It wouldn't happen that often. The sampling rate for the governor is
1000 times the latency, so, at most, 0.1% of the time would be spent
at 24MHz.
And if you're really concerned about performances, you won't enable
cpufreq anyway.
Maxime
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2016-06-25 3:44 [PATCH v2] Thermal regulation for Orange Pi PC and Orange Pi One megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:44 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] ARM: clk: sunxi: Add driver for the H3 THS clock megous
2016-06-25 3:44 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:44 ` megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 7:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 15:23 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-25 15:23 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-25 15:23 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-28 11:52 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-28 11:52 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-28 11:52 ` Maxime Ripard
[not found] ` <20160625034511.7966-1-megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-25 3:44 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] thermal: sun8i_ths: Add support for the thermal sensor on Allwinner H3 megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:44 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:44 ` megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 7:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 15:12 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-25 15:12 ` Ondřej Jirman
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2016-06-28 11:39 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-28 11:39 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-28 11:39 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] dt-bindings: document sun8i_ths - H3 thermal sensor driver megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous at megous.com
[not found] ` <20160625034511.7966-4-megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-28 20:56 ` Rob Herring
2016-06-28 20:56 ` Rob Herring
2016-06-28 20:56 ` Rob Herring
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] regulator: SY8106A regulator driver megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-26 11:26 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 11:26 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 15:07 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-26 15:07 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-27 14:54 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-27 14:54 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-28 16:27 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-28 16:27 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-27 15:10 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-27 15:10 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] dt-bindings: document " megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-26 11:27 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 11:27 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 11:27 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 15:10 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-26 15:10 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-26 15:10 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-26 18:52 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 18:52 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-26 18:52 ` Mark Brown
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] ARM: sun8i: clk: Add clk-factor rate application method megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous at megous.com
2016-06-30 20:40 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-30 20:40 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-30 20:40 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-01 0:50 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 0:50 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 0:50 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 5:37 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-01 5:37 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-01 6:34 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 6:34 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 6:34 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 7:47 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-01 7:47 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-01 7:47 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-15 8:53 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-15 8:53 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-15 8:53 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-15 10:38 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 10:38 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 10:38 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 13:27 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-15 13:27 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2016-07-15 13:48 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 13:48 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 13:48 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 14:22 ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
2016-07-15 14:22 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-07-15 14:22 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-07-15 16:33 ` Ondřej Jirman
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2016-07-21 9:52 ` Ondřej Jirman
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2016-07-26 6:32 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-26 6:32 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-28 11:27 ` Changed: sunxi-ng clock code - NKMP clock implementation is wrong Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-28 11:27 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-28 11:27 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-28 11:38 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2016-07-28 11:38 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2016-07-28 11:38 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2016-07-28 21:00 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-28 21:00 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-28 21:00 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-28 22:01 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-28 22:01 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-28 22:01 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-31 10:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-31 10:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-31 10:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-31 22:01 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-31 22:01 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-31 22:01 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-08-31 20:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-08-31 20:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-08-31 20:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-01 0:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] ARM: sun8i: clk: Add clk-factor rate application method Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 0:53 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 0:53 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-15 8:19 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-15 8:19 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-15 8:19 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Use sun8i-h3-pll1-clk for pll1 in H3 megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add thermal sensor node to the sun8i-h3.dtsi megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add cpu0 label to sun8i-h3.dtsi megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add r_twi I2C controller megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 7:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add sy8106a regulator to Orange Pi PC megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Setup CPU operating points for Onrage PI PC megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Add gpio-regulator used on Orange Pi One megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-25 7:18 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:18 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 7:18 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-06-25 3:45 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] ARM: dts: sun8i: Enable DVFS " megous at megous.com
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous
2016-06-25 3:45 ` megous-5qf/QAjKc83QT0dZR+AlfA
2016-06-30 11:13 ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 11:13 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 14:19 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 14:19 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 14:19 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 15:16 ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 15:16 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 15:16 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 15:32 ` [linux-sunxi] " Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 15:32 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 15:32 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 15:50 ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
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2016-06-30 15:50 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 15:53 ` [linux-sunxi] " Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 15:53 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-06-30 15:53 ` Ondřej Jirman
2016-07-01 10:54 ` [linux-sunxi] " Michal Suchanek
2016-07-01 10:54 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-07-01 10:54 ` Michal Suchanek
2016-06-30 14:23 ` [linux-sunxi] " Siarhei Siamashka
2016-06-30 14:23 ` Siarhei Siamashka
2016-06-30 14:23 ` Siarhei Siamashka
2016-07-01 1:17 ` [linux-sunxi] " Ondřej Jirman
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