From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [xfs] 68a9f5e700: aim7.jobs-per-min -13.6% regression
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:24:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160818132414.GK8119@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160818071111.GD22388@dastard>
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 05:11:11PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 01:45:17AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 04:49:07PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > Yes, we could try to batch the locking like DaveC already suggested
> > > > (ie we could move the locking to the caller, and then make
> > > > shrink_page_list() just try to keep the lock held for a few pages if
> > > > the mapping doesn't change), and that might result in fewer crazy
> > > > cacheline ping-pongs overall. But that feels like exactly the wrong
> > > > kind of workaround.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Even if such batching was implemented, it would be very specific to the
> > > case of a single large file filling LRUs on multiple nodes.
> > >
> >
> > The latest Jason Bourne movie was sufficiently bad that I spent time
> > thinking how the tree_lock could be batched during reclaim. It's not
> > straight-forward but this prototype did not blow up on UMA and may be
> > worth considering if Dave can test either approach has a positive impact.
>
> SO, I just did a couple of tests. I'll call the two patches "sleepy"
> for the contention backoff patch and "bourney" for the Jason Bourne
> inspired batching patch. This is an average of 3 runs, overwriting
> a 47GB file on a machine with 16GB RAM:
>
> IO throughput wall time __pv_queued_spin_lock_slowpath
> vanilla 470MB/s 1m42s 25-30%
> sleepy 295MB/s 2m43s <1%
> bourney 425MB/s 1m53s 25-30%
>
Thanks. I updated the tests today and reran them trying to reproduce what
you saw but I'm simply not seeing it on bare metal with a spinning disk.
xfsio Throughput
4.8.0-rc2 4.8.0-rc2 4.8.0-rc2
vanilla sleepy bourney
Min tput 147.4450 ( 0.00%) 147.2580 ( 0.13%) 147.3900 ( 0.04%)
Hmean tput 147.5853 ( 0.00%) 147.5101 ( 0.05%) 147.6121 ( -0.02%)
Stddev tput 0.1041 ( 0.00%) 0.1785 (-71.47%) 0.2036 (-95.63%)
CoeffVar tput 0.0705 ( 0.00%) 0.1210 (-71.56%) 0.1379 (-95.59%)
Max tput 147.6940 ( 0.00%) 147.6420 ( 0.04%) 147.8820 ( -0.13%)
I'm currently setting up a KVM instance that may fare better. Due to
quirks of where machines are, I have to setup the KVM instance on real
NUMA hardware but maybe that'll make the problem even more obvious.
> The overall CPU usage of sleepy was much lower than the others, but
> it was also much slower. Too much sleeping and not enough reclaim
> work being done, I think.
>
Looks like it. On my initial test, there was barely any sleeping.
> As for bourney, it's not immediately clear as to why it's nearly as
> bad as the movie. At worst I would have expected it to have not
> noticable impact, but maybe we are delaying freeing of pages too
> long and so stalling allocation of new pages? It also doesn't do
> much to reduce contention, especially considering the reduction in
> throughput.
>
> On a hunch that the batch list isn't all one mapping, I sorted it.
> Patch is below if you're curious.
>
The fact that sorting makes such a difference makes me think that it's
the wrong direction. It's far too specific to this test case and does
nothing to throttle a reclaimer. It's also fairly complex and I expected
that normal users of remove_mapping such as truncation would take a hit.
The hit of bouncing the lock around just hurts too much.
> FWIW, I just remembered about /proc/sys/vm/zone_reclaim_mode.
>
That is a terrifying "fix" for this problem. It just happens to work
because there is no spillover to other nodes so only one kswapd instance
is potentially active.
> Anyway, I've burnt enough erase cycles on this SSD for today....
>
I'll continue looking at getting KVM up and running and then consider
other possibilities for throttling.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Bob Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, LKP <lkp@01.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LKP] [lkp] [xfs] 68a9f5e700: aim7.jobs-per-min -13.6% regression
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:24:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160818132414.GK8119@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160818071111.GD22388@dastard>
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 05:11:11PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 01:45:17AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 04:49:07PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > Yes, we could try to batch the locking like DaveC already suggested
> > > > (ie we could move the locking to the caller, and then make
> > > > shrink_page_list() just try to keep the lock held for a few pages if
> > > > the mapping doesn't change), and that might result in fewer crazy
> > > > cacheline ping-pongs overall. But that feels like exactly the wrong
> > > > kind of workaround.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Even if such batching was implemented, it would be very specific to the
> > > case of a single large file filling LRUs on multiple nodes.
> > >
> >
> > The latest Jason Bourne movie was sufficiently bad that I spent time
> > thinking how the tree_lock could be batched during reclaim. It's not
> > straight-forward but this prototype did not blow up on UMA and may be
> > worth considering if Dave can test either approach has a positive impact.
>
> SO, I just did a couple of tests. I'll call the two patches "sleepy"
> for the contention backoff patch and "bourney" for the Jason Bourne
> inspired batching patch. This is an average of 3 runs, overwriting
> a 47GB file on a machine with 16GB RAM:
>
> IO throughput wall time __pv_queued_spin_lock_slowpath
> vanilla 470MB/s 1m42s 25-30%
> sleepy 295MB/s 2m43s <1%
> bourney 425MB/s 1m53s 25-30%
>
Thanks. I updated the tests today and reran them trying to reproduce what
you saw but I'm simply not seeing it on bare metal with a spinning disk.
xfsio Throughput
4.8.0-rc2 4.8.0-rc2 4.8.0-rc2
vanilla sleepy bourney
Min tput 147.4450 ( 0.00%) 147.2580 ( 0.13%) 147.3900 ( 0.04%)
Hmean tput 147.5853 ( 0.00%) 147.5101 ( 0.05%) 147.6121 ( -0.02%)
Stddev tput 0.1041 ( 0.00%) 0.1785 (-71.47%) 0.2036 (-95.63%)
CoeffVar tput 0.0705 ( 0.00%) 0.1210 (-71.56%) 0.1379 (-95.59%)
Max tput 147.6940 ( 0.00%) 147.6420 ( 0.04%) 147.8820 ( -0.13%)
I'm currently setting up a KVM instance that may fare better. Due to
quirks of where machines are, I have to setup the KVM instance on real
NUMA hardware but maybe that'll make the problem even more obvious.
> The overall CPU usage of sleepy was much lower than the others, but
> it was also much slower. Too much sleeping and not enough reclaim
> work being done, I think.
>
Looks like it. On my initial test, there was barely any sleeping.
> As for bourney, it's not immediately clear as to why it's nearly as
> bad as the movie. At worst I would have expected it to have not
> noticable impact, but maybe we are delaying freeing of pages too
> long and so stalling allocation of new pages? It also doesn't do
> much to reduce contention, especially considering the reduction in
> throughput.
>
> On a hunch that the batch list isn't all one mapping, I sorted it.
> Patch is below if you're curious.
>
The fact that sorting makes such a difference makes me think that it's
the wrong direction. It's far too specific to this test case and does
nothing to throttle a reclaimer. It's also fairly complex and I expected
that normal users of remove_mapping such as truncation would take a hit.
The hit of bouncing the lock around just hurts too much.
> FWIW, I just remembered about /proc/sys/vm/zone_reclaim_mode.
>
That is a terrifying "fix" for this problem. It just happens to work
because there is no spillover to other nodes so only one kswapd instance
is potentially active.
> Anyway, I've burnt enough erase cycles on this SSD for today....
>
I'll continue looking at getting KVM up and running and then consider
other possibilities for throttling.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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2016-08-15 22:22 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-15 22:42 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-15 22:42 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-15 23:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-15 23:20 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-15 23:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-15 23:48 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 0:44 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-16 0:44 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-16 15:05 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-16 15:05 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Mel Gorman
2016-08-16 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 17:47 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-17 15:48 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-17 15:48 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Michal Hocko
2016-08-17 16:42 ` Michal Hocko
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2016-08-17 15:49 ` Mel Gorman
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2016-08-18 0:45 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-18 0:45 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Mel Gorman
2016-08-18 7:11 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-18 13:24 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-18 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-18 21:19 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-18 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-18 22:25 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-19 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-19 9:00 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Michal Hocko
2016-08-19 10:49 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-19 10:49 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Mel Gorman
2016-08-19 23:48 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-19 23:48 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-20 1:08 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-20 12:16 ` Mel Gorman
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2016-09-01 23:32 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-09-06 15:52 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-08-24 15:40 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-08-25 9:37 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-25 9:37 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Mel Gorman
2016-08-18 2:44 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-16 0:15 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-16 0:38 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-16 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-16 0:19 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-16 1:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 1:51 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 22:02 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-16 22:02 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-16 23:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 23:23 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-15 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-15 23:01 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 0:17 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-16 0:17 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-16 0:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-16 0:45 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-09 14:33 kernel test robot
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2016-08-10 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-10 18:24 ` [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-10 23:08 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-10 23:08 ` [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-10 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-10 23:51 ` [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-10 23:58 ` Huang, Ying
2016-08-10 23:58 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Huang, Ying
2016-08-11 0:11 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-08-11 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-11 0:33 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-08-11 1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-11 1:00 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Linus Torvalds
2016-08-11 4:46 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-15 17:22 ` Huang, Ying
2016-08-15 17:22 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Huang, Ying
2016-08-16 0:08 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-11 15:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-11 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-11 17:51 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-08-11 20:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-11 21:16 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-08-11 21:40 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-11 22:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-12 0:54 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-12 2:23 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-12 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-12 2:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-12 3:20 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-12 5:02 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-12 6:04 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-12 6:29 ` Ye Xiaolong
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2016-08-12 8:51 ` Ye Xiaolong
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2016-08-12 10:02 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-12 10:43 ` Fengguang Wu
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2016-08-13 0:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-13 22:07 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-13 22:07 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Fengguang Wu
2016-08-13 22:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-13 22:51 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-13 22:51 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Fengguang Wu
2016-08-14 14:50 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-14 14:50 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Fengguang Wu
2016-08-14 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2016-08-14 23:46 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-14 23:57 ` Fengguang Wu
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2016-08-15 14:14 ` Fengguang Wu
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2016-08-15 20:30 ` Huang, Ying
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2016-09-26 6:25 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-26 6:25 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Huang, Ying
2016-09-26 14:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-26 14:55 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-27 0:52 ` Huang, Ying
2016-09-27 0:52 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Huang, Ying
2016-08-16 13:25 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-16 13:25 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Fengguang Wu
2016-08-13 23:32 ` Dave Chinner
2016-08-13 23:32 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Dave Chinner
2016-08-12 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-12 3:56 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-12 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-13 23:58 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-13 23:58 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Fengguang Wu
2016-08-15 0:48 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-15 1:37 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-15 2:28 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-15 2:53 ` Linus Torvalds
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2016-08-15 5:00 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-15 5:03 ` Ingo Molnar
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2016-08-17 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-17 16:24 ` [LKP] [lkp] " Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-15 12:58 ` Fengguang Wu
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2016-08-11 1:16 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-11 1:32 ` Dave Chinner
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2016-08-11 2:36 ` Ye Xiaolong
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2016-08-11 3:05 ` Dave Chinner
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