From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Aruna Ramakrishna <aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB (was: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/slab: Improve performance of gathering slabinfo) stats
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:20:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160824082057.GT2693@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160823153807.GN23577@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 05:38:08PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Do we have any documentation/study about which particular workloads
> benefit from which allocator? It seems that most users will use whatever
> the default or what their distribution uses. E.g. SLES kernel use SLAB
> because this is what we used to have for ages and there was no strong
> reason to change that default.
Yes, with the downside that a reliance on high-orders contended on the
zone lock which would not scale and could degrade over time. If there
were multiple compelling reasons then it would have been an easier
switch.
I did prototype high-order pcp caching up to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER
but it pushed the size of per_cpu_pages over a cache line which could
be problematic in itself. I never finished off the work as fixing the
allocator for SLUB was not a priority. The prototype no longer applies as
it conflicts with the removal of the fair zone allocation policy.
If/when I get back to the page allocator, the priority would be a bulk
API for faster allocs of batches of order-0 pages instead of allocating
a large page and splitting.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Aruna Ramakrishna <aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB (was: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/slab: Improve performance of gathering slabinfo) stats
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:20:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160824082057.GT2693@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160823153807.GN23577@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 05:38:08PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Do we have any documentation/study about which particular workloads
> benefit from which allocator? It seems that most users will use whatever
> the default or what their distribution uses. E.g. SLES kernel use SLAB
> because this is what we used to have for ages and there was no strong
> reason to change that default.
Yes, with the downside that a reliance on high-orders contended on the
zone lock which would not scale and could degrade over time. If there
were multiple compelling reasons then it would have been an easier
switch.
I did prototype high-order pcp caching up to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER
but it pushed the size of per_cpu_pages over a cache line which could
be problematic in itself. I never finished off the work as fixing the
allocator for SLUB was not a priority. The prototype no longer applies as
it conflicts with the removal of the fair zone allocation policy.
If/when I get back to the page allocator, the priority would be a bulk
API for faster allocs of batches of order-0 pages instead of allocating
a large page and splitting.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-24 8:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-17 18:20 [PATCH v3] mm/slab: Improve performance of gathering slabinfo stats Aruna Ramakrishna
2016-08-17 18:20 ` Aruna Ramakrishna
2016-08-17 19:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-17 19:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-17 19:25 ` Aruna Ramakrishna
2016-08-17 19:25 ` Aruna Ramakrishna
2016-08-18 11:52 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-18 11:52 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-19 5:47 ` aruna.ramakrishna
2016-08-19 5:47 ` aruna.ramakrishna
2016-08-23 2:13 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-08-23 2:13 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-08-23 15:38 ` what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB (was: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/slab: Improve performance of gathering slabinfo) stats Michal Hocko
2016-08-23 15:38 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-23 15:54 ` what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB Andi Kleen
2016-08-23 15:54 ` Andi Kleen
2016-08-25 4:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-25 4:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-25 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-25 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-25 19:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-25 19:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-24 1:15 ` what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB (was: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/slab: Improve performance of gathering slabinfo) stats Joonsoo Kim
2016-08-24 1:15 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-08-24 8:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-24 8:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-24 8:20 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2016-08-24 8:20 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-25 4:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-25 4:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-25 10:07 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-25 10:07 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-25 19:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-25 19:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-26 20:47 ` what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB Andi Kleen
2016-08-26 20:47 ` Andi Kleen
2016-08-29 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-29 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-29 14:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-29 14:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-30 9:39 ` what is the purpose of SLAB and SLUB (was: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/slab: Improve performance of gathering slabinfo) stats Mel Gorman
2016-08-30 9:39 ` Mel Gorman
2016-08-30 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-30 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
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